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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: romany stone on Thursday 07 August 14 16:15 BST (UK)
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Could you give us a start with what you DO know - names dates etc [no names of living people of course] so that no-one wastes their time looking for information you already have.
ADDED: I see you have given some information at reply 12:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=604052.0
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Josey
I see in your family names a Penrose of Dublin. Is this family connected to the Penrose surname of Cornwall. Lookin2
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hi the STONE family ive seen is STEPHEN stone my g g great granddad, his brother ELIJHA MATILDA all live on the BOHIEOM GYPSY site in Southend
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
hi the STONE family ive seen is STEPHEN stone my g g great granddad, his brother ELIJHA MATILDA all live on the BOHIEOM GYPSY site in Southend
This doesn't really give us enough info to work from so we need you to provide more info as detailed below
When was Stephen born and where was he born? When and where did he die?
Who was his wife and who were his children - we need their names and birthyears
A good starting point for you would be to look them up on the 1911 census and get all their details. We can then help you with info prior to the 1911
Because of copyright restrictions - members cannot help you with 1911 info although it is ok for you to post those details when you find them
http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx
Here is a possible 1901 entry - Green Lane Eastleigh
Stephan Stone 57 general dealer b Sittingbourne Kent
Matilda 56 b London
Elijah 14 b Tilbury
Elsie 13 ditto
Mary 10 b Eastwood
Louisa 8 ditto
RG13 Piece 1676 Folio 79 Page 9.
the 1871 and 1881 censuses can be searched for free here
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1538354
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1321821
And you can look for births/marriages/deaths here
www.freebmd.org.uk
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hi romany stone
are these your family
elijah stone partner to elizabeth loveridge with Stephen (elijah's brother) also being a partner to elizabeth loveridge ?
with children Rosina, albert, queenie/jeannie, jeremiah, elijah, charles, stephen, elizabeth and also stephen listed as father to elias, who married matilda livermore, and mary who married jo lamb, and louisa who married john moss.
are these the correct relations?
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HI social butterflies yes that's my family, Albert wos my great granddad, he had a son David and others, David is my granddad. Ive been told Stephens wife left him for Elijah so we on the right trail :)
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some previous threads iv put info on are
brooks, lambs, anderson
bohemia estate
and these links as well
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=590538.msg4471777#msg4471777
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=580228.msg4320334#msg4320334
maybe they will give you some dates and other links :) see you next month :)
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Stephen Stone was my great great great grandfather. I have more info on ancestry.com - do you have an account?
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A MEETING FOR THE DESCENDANTS OF THE GYPSY FAMILIES OF THE BOHEMIA ESTATES IN EASTWOOD LEIGH ON SEA ESSEX
16th OCTOBER 2016 (sunday) 12-5
ALL WELCOME. £1 ENTRY at THE CHURCH HALL
(please park at the church and walk back as parking is limited in the hall, less than 5 min walk)
St Laurence & All Saints Church
Junction of Aviation Way and Eastwoodbury Lane
Southend-on-Sea
SS2 6UN
PLEASE COME ALONG AND MEET UP WITH DISTANT RELATIVES, SHARE PHOTOGRAPHS AND MEMORIES, STORIES AND CONTACT DETAILS. ;D
WE MEET ANNUALLY WITH LOTS OF LOVELY INTERESTING PEOPLE. MANY HAVE FOUND THEIR DISTANT LIVING RELATIONS. LOTS OF UNKNOWN PHOTOS HAVE BEEN NAMED ( & SHAMED). NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS, PHOTOS, CERTIFICATES, DOCUMENTS, MAPS, ETC SHARED. :o
AN AFTERNOON OF ROCKERING WITH YA KIN :)
THIS IS FOR ANYONE WHO HAS CONNECTIONS TO THE GYPSY'S WHO LIVED OR STOPPED AT THE BOHEMIA ESTATES, THEIR ANCESTORS, THEIR DESCENDANTS AND ANYONE INTERESTED OR SHARING INFORMATION WITH OUR ROMANY GYPSY ANCESTORS. 8)
FAMILIES INCLUDE:
Allums, Bibby, Boswell, Buckley, Chillcott, Gumble, Lee, Livermore, Lambs, Loveridge, Pearce, Scarrott, Spencer, Shaw, Webb.
ATTENDING FAMILIES with connections, include: so far - (names will be added daily)
Buckley, Bibby, Boswell, Shaw, Lamb, Pearce, Webb,
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Hi My Grandad was George Witney & my Great Grandad was Walter Witney/Webb, his wife my Great Gandmother was Alice stone & they came to Little Totham & lived on the Totham Plains,
She married Walter Witney/Webb they travelled to Kent for Hop picking etc, & I know my dad has done some searching & she was related to the Stone's in Southend I think she came to or from the Bohemian Estate Eastwood.
They settled here in Little Totham for the farm work & my dad still remembers they held on to alot of there traditions & didn't want to change, they never had water or electric connected to the little timber bungalow they built here & still cooked outside most of the time over a fire with a tripod & this was in the 1960's -1970's.
I'm very interested in my roots & know quite a lot about the Witney/Webb side I know they used both names. Depending on where they were?
But I have limited knowledge about the stone Side, I know my dad remembers Alice talking about walking from Southend area to kent Hop picking but not much else. And I know after they lived on a small piece of land Just next to the Totham Common after her mother brought the plot & they got some old railway carriages they had as a base there, I know also my Great Grandad was Baptised in kent as Walter Webb but we have always been known as Witney's round here? & is also in his christening book, His mum was Mary Livermore, from(Bassingbourn, Royston, Melbourn,) Cambridge & Dad John Witney from Layer Breton, sometimes the Witney is spelt Whitney depends who was writing it (that still happens now). I know Mary's mother Sarah Ann Livermore who was also living at Bohemian Estate Eastwood when she past away in 1912. There is so much but I have little about the Romany Stone side, my dad knows a bit more but not much, so would be interested if you know anything thanks.
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Hi Thermos. We have a Facebook group called Bohemia Estate. Please come and join.
My g grandfather was John Livermore brother of Mary.
Do you know where they went hop picking in Kent?