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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: Ann McGrath on Monday 04 August 14 04:47 BST (UK)
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Hi to all chat members,
accidentally clicked on chats for family info- they have sent me here!
I am extremely new at this & hope I don't muck it up & am after info of ggrandfather Alfred John Timberlake b:1880 d:1913 [Hackney] 34yrs, & ggrandmother Jessie Elizabeth Timberlake [nee meares], b:1879 d: 1965 [86yrs],[Rochford], I want to go to U.k & this is the first thing on my list-I know the vol no for Alfred is 1b page 472. So someone is on the right track siblings were- Alice, Ethel, Harold [my grand father] Dec. in Australia, Alfred Sydney. I have emailed Govt Cemeteries with no luck. Hope to here from someone--Ann----- :
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Hi
I have the marriage as
16 July 1900 at St John, Hackney
Alfred John Timberlake age 22
Jessie Elizabeth Meares age 22
Alfreds father Alfred Thomas Timberlake
Jessies father Robert Meares
In 1901 at 1 Navarino Grove, Hackney
Alfred J Timberlake age 21 bn Peckham
Jessie E age 21 bn Old Ford
Jessie E 2 months bn Hackney.
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Hi,
The reference for Alfred's death:
Alfred J Timberlake DecQ 1913 Hackney 1b 472
A copy of this certificate should give Alfred's home address which will give you a start point to search for likely cemeteries.
Certificates cost £9.25 and can be ordered from:
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Nanny Jan
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Hi Nanny Jan,
I've got vol nos. page. nos. etc. even emailed family doing " Timberlake tree " - no reply, emailed local Govts for Cemetery/ies - for Hackney & Rochford - no reply.
The certificate you refer to is that different from a death certificate.
In Australia a death cert. only refers to the deceased medical reasons for there death nothing else.
not where they are going to be interred [buried/cremated].
When you are young you don't think of asking these sort of things - as you get older they mean all the difference sentimentally.
Thanks Nanny Jan, just for taking the time & effort.
Kind regards Ann :)
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The certificate you refer to is that different from a death certificate.
In Australia a death cert. only refers to the deceased medical reasons for there death nothing else.
not where they are going to be interred [buried/cremated].
That is the death certificate. The only information that would give that would help is the address at which he died and possibly the death of the informant. If he died in hospital it may not help at all.
Added - Valda has done a guide to cemeteries in the London area here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=403485.0
This is the area covered by the Hackney registration district
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/hackney.html
Where is he living in 1911
Rosie
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Hi,
The references I gave are for a death certificate, which will show his usual address but not any burial arrangements. Using his home address will help you find the nearest/most likely cemetery. The death certificate will also give the exact date of death which will be necessary for any burial register search.
Nanny Jan
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Here's what will be on an English death cert.
http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/deaths.htm
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Hi,
This could be his address,
London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
1913
TIMBERLAKE Alfred John
43 Oakfield Road
Hackney
Regards,
Daisy
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Hi Ann, Hackney Council lists cemeteries in the area here
http://www.hackney.gov.uk/ce-burial-and-grave-details-335.htm#.U9_SW381gv5
Abney Park Cemetery has an online burial index, there are 3 Timberlakes buried there but not Alfred or Jessie.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~abneypark/abneyy.html
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Hi all you terrific people,
Rosie 99, your info right,
Daisy Petal, that's the address when & where Alfred & the family were living.
I got out my grandfather's original Apprenticeship Indenture [1921] & it's the same address -43 Oakfield Road Hackney.
Carol 18383 & Jools I'll look those sites up.
I'm quite sure Alfred died 13 Dec. 1913 Hackney.
I have my grandfather's original birth certificate 1906 - born district of Hackney. So they were there for quite some time after Alfred died.
Would St. John's Parish have an existing connected Cemetery?
I can't thank you all enough,
Ann x
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Hi,
This is a useful guide written by Valda:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=403492.0
Nanny Jan