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Title: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: fraser1 on Saturday 02 August 14 21:05 BST (UK)
I new that both my grandfathers served in WW1 and both were wounded but not that my paternal grandfather's brother, William Harry Grant of the Royal Scots. He was one of Alexander and Annabella Grant's sons, Keeper's Lodge, Gight, Fyvie, Aberdeenshire.  I did not know of him until recently when I started on my family tree!  He was a drummer and survived being wounded and sent to Dublin for treatment before being returned to the Front and dying from gunshot wounds to the abdomen.  He is buried in Valenciennes  (St Roch) Communal Cemetery.  I will try to find if he is on a memorial somewhere.

All those who gave their life must be remembered and so too those who survived.

Sandra
Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: jess5athome on Saturday 02 August 14 21:28 BST (UK)

All those who gave their life must be remembered and so too those who survived.

Sandra



Absolutely agree with that.

Regards
Frank.
Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: Rudolf H B on Saturday 02 August 14 21:37 BST (UK)
William Harry Grant

Date of Death: 03/11/1916
Age:                29
Grave: IV. C. 6. at VALENCIENNES (ST. ROCH) COMMUNAL CEMETERY

Medal card of Grant, William
Corps                        Regiment No      Rank
11th Battalion Royal Scots      17009   Private
11th Battalion Royal Scots   17009   Private
Number and Bn might be helpful.
There are several William Grant of the Royal Scots.

The National Archives, Kew
Reference:WO 372/8/101257
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D2409786 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D2409786)
The information might be on AN***TRY.

Regards
Rudolf
Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: fraser1 on Sunday 03 August 14 21:56 BST (UK)
Third time of trying.  Thank you for the information and link.  Do you know what other information is  on the paid download?

Does anyone know if there is a site with a list of all war memorials.

Kind Regards

Sandra
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Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: Jool on Sunday 03 August 14 22:08 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra, you could have a look here

http://www.ukniwm.org.uk/server/
Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: Rudolf H B on Sunday 03 August 14 23:54 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra,

he is rembered online here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/remembrance/wall/record/12834 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/remembrance/wall/record/12834)

He can't be googled on a war memorial site.

Kind regards
Rudolf
Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: fraser1 on Wednesday 06 August 14 17:41 BST (UK)
Hi Jool,

Thanks for the link.  I have had a quick look but can't find him - geography could do with a brush up!

Thanks again to you Rudolph.  I have printed it off. 

It always amazes me how much and how many sites you all know.

Kind Regards

Sandra
Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: John915 on Tuesday 12 August 14 18:17 BST (UK)
Good evening,

He may be on here but you would have to go and look as no names have been given to the site as yet. https://www.warmemorialsonline.org.uk/node/144193

John915

PS they need people to send them the names for many memorials. Why not be the one to do this memorial.
Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: John915 on Tuesday 12 August 14 18:23 BST (UK)
And again,

It would seem he is not on this memorial, http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/173637/contribution/fyvie+war+memorial/

His parents came from here so would seem an obvious choice. Do you know where he lived before the war, maybe another village close by.

John915
Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: leka on Tuesday 12 August 14 19:23 BST (UK)

First off i totally agree with you
"All those who gave their life must be remembered and so too those who survived."
On AN****RY in "British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920"  there are 18 images for William Grant (not William Harry Grant)from Aberdeenshire with the service record number 17009 and who's father was Alexander.



Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: Rudolf H B on Tuesday 12 August 14 21:19 BST (UK)
Every Man Remembered - Royal British Legion:
http://www.everymanremembered.org/ (http://www.everymanremembered.org/)


It is a great site for online memories, you can place poppies, where he was born, where he died or found his grave and more ...

You are allowed to tell his story and to upload photos. -
But you should do it when the whole paperwork is complete.
When you hit the final upload button no more edits are allowed.

Have a look on the FAQ of  above site, or on our thread (Reply #9 & other):
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=694406.9 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=694406.9)

Best regards
Rudolf
Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: Irishseeker on Sunday 24 August 14 23:21 BST (UK)
All soldiers who died in WW1 can be found on CWGC. incredible info.Certs. and which memorial site they are acknowledged
Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: IMBER on Monday 25 August 14 08:14 BST (UK)
He is remembered by Scotland! Like all Scots or those who served in Scottish units he is listed at the Scottish National War Memorial within Edinburgh Castle and also on their website. Truly worth visting:

http://www.snwm.org/

Imber

Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: fraser1 on Tuesday 26 August 14 11:29 BST (UK)
I have just typed a reply which disappeared into the ether!  Here I go again.

Many thanks to all for the recent replies and my apologies for not getting back sooner.  Other things need to be done. 

I have looked at the links and printed some off and got some more information. Of course this raised some more questions.

He was a POW and died of gunshot wounds to the abdomen.  Would he have been treated in a German field hospital and then buried by them as he was later exhumed and re buried?

Was there some arrangement where each side did this for the wounded and dead?
There really is so much more to this than I know.

Hopefully I can look at the 1911 census and see where he lived then.  Abernethy is a place often
mentioned.

Many thanks again.

Kind Regards

Sandra

Title: Re: 3 November 1916 11th Battalion Royal Scots 29
Post by: Rudolf H B on Tuesday 26 August 14 16:10 BST (UK)
"He was a POW and died of gunshot wounds to the abdomen. Would he have been treated in a German field hospital and then buried by them as he was later exhumed and re buried?"
- I think the Etappen-Lazarett had been a better place than a Feldlazarett (field hospital). Valenciennes had been in a fixed building and the boss had been a doctor in the rank of a general. But gunshot wounds to the abdomen had been fatal wounds in this days (but I am not a M.D.)

"Was there some arrangement where each side did this for the wounded and dead?"
- Yes, and there had been exchanges of wounded soldiers - even via Switzerland.

Kind Regards
Rudolf

Here is his POW / hospital thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=695644.0 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=695644.0)