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Title: Richard Ernest HART b cir 1894 - information required
Post by: kinglad on Friday 01 August 14 17:04 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out about a richard ernest hart born about 1894, died 3-5-1917 age 23 in ww1, son of william and annie hart of 3 park row hessle.

I would love to know where he was born and information on his parents, ie. birth, mothers surname etc plus of any brothers and sisters, and if his ww1 service record is still available, his number was 11/704 sgt, east yorks

thank you
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Post by: kinglad on Friday 01 August 14 17:05 BST (UK)
I think he is down has dick in the 1901 census in hessle
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Post by: Rudolf H B on Friday 01 August 14 17:59 BST (UK)
Medal card of Hart, Richard E
Corps                     Regiment No   Rank
East Yorkshire Regiment   11/704   Private
East Yorkshire Regiment   11/704   Serjeant

The National Archives, Kew
Reference:WO 372/9/62394

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D2566396 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D2566396)

Regards
Rudolf
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Post by: kinglad on Friday 01 August 14 18:04 BST (UK)
anything on the census, i would love to know where he was born
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Post by: judi2632 on Friday 01 August 14 18:12 BST (UK)
1901 census
William Hart 48 Palgrave, Suffolk, England
Anne Hart   50 London
George W H Hart 17 Staddlethorpe, Yorkshire, England
John A Hart 15 Staddlethorpe, Yorkshire, England
Annie M Hart 10 Brough, Yorkshire, England
Naomi  Hart 7 Brough, Yorkshire, England
Dick (Richard) Hart   6 Brough, Yorkshire, England
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Post by: judi2632 on Friday 01 August 14 18:14 BST (UK)
1891
William Hart 33 Palgrave, Suffolk, England
Anna Hart   40 London, England
George W H Hart 7 Staddlethorpe, Yorkshire, England
John A Hart 4 Staddlethorpe, Yorkshire, England
Anne M Hart 10/12 Ellerker, Yorkshire, England
Mary Ann Burton ...MOTHER 79  Norwich Norfolk England ( Miss transcribed in Ancestry) as Baswich, Yorkshire, England
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Post by: judi2632 on Friday 01 August 14 18:25 BST (UK)
This looks to be the marriage

Sep  Quarter of 1875  Sculcoates    Yorkshire, England

Anna Burton and William Hart are on the same page

Sculcoates    9d   259
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Post by: judi2632 on Friday 01 August 14 18:38 BST (UK)
1881
William Hart   28 Palsgrave, Suffolk, England
Anna Hart   30 Wife London Middlesex
Ann Burton   61 Mother widow  Norwich, Norfolk, England
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Post by: josey on Friday 01 August 14 18:40 BST (UK)
if his ww1 service record is still available, his number was 11/704 sgt, east yorks
As far as I know, service records of men who died in service were not kept.

To get any further back with certainty you will have to get the marriage certificate indicated by judi2632 to find William & Anna's father's names & occupations. Yorkshire bmd [a free site http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/] has
1875
SurnameForename(s)SurnameForename(s)Church / Register OfficeRegisters At   Reference
HART   William   BURTON   Anna   Christ Church   Hull   HCC/1/380

Have you looked for his birth on another free site?
www.freebmd.org

I'm intrigued as to why you thought Richard was Dick on the 1901 census if you hadn't already seen it?

ADDED: I am struggling to find a birth 1893 +- 2 years - have looked on freebmd, yorkshire bmd & ancestry with no success.
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Post by: judi2632 on Friday 01 August 14 18:51 BST (UK)
another copy of the marriage gives fathers names as

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 about William Hart
William Hart
Age   22
Birth year    1853c
Marriage Date   25 Aug 1875
Marriaged at Christ Church, Sculcoates, York, England
His Fatheralso a    William Hart
Spouse   Anna Burton
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Post by: judi2632 on Friday 01 August 14 18:52 BST (UK)
Anna Burton

Age:   24
Birth    1851c
Marriage 25 Aug 1875
Marriage at Christ Church, Sculcoates, York, England
her Father   Charles Burton
Spouse William Hart
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Post by: josey on Friday 01 August 14 18:58 BST (UK)
Well found, judi - that saves the cost of a certificate  :D
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Post by: judi2632 on Friday 01 August 14 19:01 BST (UK)
1871 William Hart aged 17  Palgrave, Suffolk, England

 living as a Boarder with the Laceby family in Kingston Upon Hull Yorkshire

and in 1861 he is with his father and brother

William Hart head Married  30  Plate Layer Roydon, Norfolk, England
David Hart    9 Palgrave, Suffolk, England
William Hart 7 Palgrave, Suffolk, England
Title: Re: Richard Ernest HART b cir 1894 - information required
Post by: judi2632 on Saturday 02 August 14 11:02 BST (UK)
Richard Earnest hart has been miss Transcribed on the 1911 census both with name and age

Surname as DART aged 7 Occupation Groom

I have corrected both Ancestry for Name and his age for future ref

His details correct on the 1911 family search
Title: Re: Richard Ernest HART b cir 1894 - information required
Post by: judi2632 on Saturday 02 August 14 11:08 BST (UK)
I think this could be his birth reg
Dick Hart
Birth Registration
Quarter:   Apr-May-Jun
1894
Reg District   Beverley
County Yorkshire
Beverley, Yorkshire, England
Volume 9D
Page   93
Line Number:   123