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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => England => Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Brian Ken on Friday 25 July 14 03:02 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am trying to find out any info. about my great grand father William Collins born in 1820 in Mitchell Lount, Hampshire his parents where William Collins born abt 1790 he was soldier and mother Caroline born 1797. did he have any other siblings ?
William Collins jr. arrived in Australia in 1839 aged 19 years I wonder if he arrived with any of his family?
Regards
Brian Ken
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Hi
There are a lot of William Collins :) only one in the HGS Baptism Index which would seem similar is this one
23 January 1820-William Collins s John ^ Sarah at Michelmersh
Kim
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Hi again
There are no baptisms for a "william Collins and Caroline" are you sure about his parents?
These are the other baptisms for John and Sarah in case they help all at Michelmersh
1820-William
28 Oct 1821-James
25 Apr 1824-Robert
03 Dec 1826-George
03 May 1829-Mary
07 Aug 1831-Sarah-formerly of Michelmersh-transported
Kim
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There is a Public Tree on Ancestry which has the above William Collins as William John Collins parents John Collins & Sarah Luke - he dies in Corryong Victoria Aus in 1901
Is he the same William as yours?
Kim
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Was just going to post that Kimbrey as all the family that you mentioned appear on it
This family arrived aboard the ship Susan Assisted Immigrant Lists on 10th March 1839 ...
John Collins 40,Sarah Collins 40,James 17,Robert15,George 12, Mary 10, Sarah 8 also William who lists his father as John Collins
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Family tree has his birth date as 5th December 1820 in Michelmersh and on this William Unmarried Male Immigrant form his baptism is 10th December 1820 Michelmarsh Hampshire
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HI Kim and Rosie
Thanks for your help but I don't think it's my William Collins ? I originally thought that he came from Cornwell but recently a relative said that she thought that he came from Hampshire.
He is a bit of a mystery man. I have written a book about his wife's mother who was an Aboriginal and I would dearly loved to find out more about him (my G/grandfather). His Death certificate stated : Died :19/8/1896 in Wellington NSW.
Occupation : Farmer,Age :72 years ;Name and Occupt. of father : William Collins soldier, Mother's name :[Caroline surname unknown Born :West of England town unknown ,about 56 years in NSW. but he could have arrived in Port Phillip Victoria ? But he spent most of his life in NSW.
Informant S.Collins wife,Lincoln . His age varied greatly on his 14 childrens' birth certificates but I think that he was born was about 1820 as he lowered his because of his young wife.
Regards
Brian Ken
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Hi Brian that seems to be the only William Collins arriving round about 1839 next date was 1841 ???
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I originally thought that he came from Cornwell but recently a relative said that she thought that he came from Hampshire.
Any specific reason why for either possibility? Cornwall and Hampshire are not contiguous so narrowing it down would be a big help ;)
I don't know of anywhere in Hampshire with a name similar to Mitchell Lount. Michelmersh seems a reasonable possibility for the parish name.
If he came from Cornwall, then St Michael's Mount springs to mind as a place with a similar sounding name to Mitchell Lount.
Trying to find someone where the information is quite nebulous can be difficult especially when the name - Collins - is not that unusual :-\
Nell
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HI Little Nell
I have little or NO info. about my G/grandfather William Collins other what was on his Death certificate born West of England. I don't think that the William Collins that arrived on 10/3/1839 whose native place was Hamshire England was my William because this William died in Victoria.
Originally I thought that my William Collins was christened on 7th May 1820 at Stithians Cornwell parents were William Collins and Ann Henwood who were married 25th June 1818 at St. Martin on Looe Bay Cornwell England . This couple had several children whose names were the same as my William and Sarah Ann Collins’s children i.e. Jane; James, Thomas, John and Elizabeth.
William Collins senior served in the 4th.of Foot Regiment from 1820 and in1829 was discharged aged 35. His record stated that he was born in 1794 at Penryn Cornwell which is in St. Gluvias region which adjoins Stithians. He served in England, the West Indies and Portugal. His regiment the 4th Foot fought with many other regiments at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815, later became known as The King’s Own Royal Border Regiment
Again I am not 100% sure. as I have limited records here in Australia.Ther were 3 Collins that arrived aboard the Arygle in 1841 Thoams 24 shepard;William 20 farmer and Edward 22 farmer all came from England No other info. was on the Log.My G/grand mother Sarah Collins Nee Knight was a half cast Aboriginal & wouldn't have any relatives with English names to chose her own childrens names !
Brian
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Well, some of those clues that might help!
I tend to think of Hampshire as south of England. West of England is Somerset, Devon or Cornwall for sure and maybe Wiltshire and some other counties.
Penryn in the parish of St Gluvias is not contiguous with St Martin Looe - in fact it's quite a hoof along the coast. So this is quite a confusing picture :-\
The William baptised in 1820 in Stithians - his father was a miner at Wendron, rather than a soldier :-\ unless he joined up afterwards? Lots of miners in Cornwall of course.
Did you consider this baptism?
William Collins bp 27-Aug 1820 Perranarworthal, son of William & Mary Collins, miner of Gluvias
Nell
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Thanks Nell
That is what I thought that Hampshire was not west but more South!
I think that the link may be in the names of William & Sarah Collins children : William:Catherine; Jane; Walter ;Emma (my grandmother) ;James Thomas ; Sarah Teresa ;Elizabeth ;Thomas; John ;Shedrack; George; Ruth and Harriet . But they could be taken from the siblings of Sarah Collins 's father James Knight a convict who had his way with her mother Diana Mudgee a full blood Aboriginal then dumped her for a 17 year old white girl. Back to the drawing board I think ?
Brian Ken