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Title: FRENCH, burials and MI's in Abram
Post by: GrannyM on Tuesday 22 July 14 16:06 BST (UK)
I am trying to find the burial for Thomas French, d. 1911 and was living on Lily Lane , Bamfurlong, Abram in 1911.  I know one of his sons Samuel French was buried at St John the Evangelist in 1937:
Burial: 16 Aug 1937 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancs.
Samuel French -
    Age: 71 years
    Abode: 106 Warrington Road Abram
    Grave: 431 E N.G.
    Buried by: John Tanner Vicar of Bickershaw
    Register: Burials 1918 - 1945, Page 151, Entry 1203

But there doesn't appear to be a burial for his father at the same church.

Can anyone please locate Thomas' burial and possibly the MI? Also, does anyone have access to the MI's for St John's the evangelist and hence the MI for Samuel?

Many thanks
Title: Re: FRENCH, burials and MI's in Abram
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 23 July 14 07:37 BST (UK)
There are only 7 burials for French at St John The Evangalist on this site
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/cgi-bin/mkindx.cgi?parish=Abram&type=Parish&community=

this looks like Samuels wife ?...she went in that grave 6 years before Samuel did - and same address as Samuel
Burial: 29 Aug 1931 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Jane French -
    Age: 63 years
    Abode: 106 Warrington Rd Abram
    Grave: 431 E N.G.
    Buried by: P. G. Devereux C.A.
same grave - could this be the son of Samuel and Jane ?
Burial: 15 Feb 1954 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
William French -
    Age: 64 years
    Abode: 106 Warrington Road, Abram
    Grave: 413E(W) N.G.
    Buried by: R. H. Dowthwaite
same address - different grave
Burial: 1 Dec 1977 St John the Evangelist, Abram, Lancashire, England
Samuel French -
    Age: 64 years
    Abode: 106 Warrington Road, Abram
    Grave: 416 S.W.

No sign of Thomas the father at all ....
Title: Re: FRENCH, burials and MI's in Abram
Post by: GrannyM on Wednesday 23 July 14 13:13 BST (UK)
Thank you garstonite. Yes all three French burials are connected to Samuel d.1937. Jane his wife, William their son and Samuel their grandson. With Thomas living on Lily Lane, Bamfurlong I was hoping that he too would be buried at St John The Evangelist. Wondering if anyone who knows the area could suggest other graveyards to check.

Many thanks
Title: Re: FRENCH, burials and MI's in Abram
Post by: Gibel on Saturday 26 July 14 18:42 BST (UK)
There are a number of cemetery indexes for the Wigan area on the Wigan World website. Have you tried them?
Title: Re: FRENCH, burials and MI's in Abram
Post by: GrannyM on Saturday 26 July 14 21:56 BST (UK)
I have Gibel,  I found  another son of Thomas buried at Westwood Cemetry, William who died in 1959. But still no sign of Thomas in 1911. Beginning to think he may be buried nearer to St Helens...perhaps Parr or Eccleston as this is where his family came from originally.
Title: Re: FRENCH, burials and MI's in Abram
Post by: Mrs. AB on Sunday 27 July 14 01:14 BST (UK)
There is a burial of a Thomas French in St Helens Cemetery aged 69 which would fit spot on with the death in the Hindley district of `your` Thomas French.

http://crem.oltps.sthelens.gov.uk/

Thomas French
(No death date)
Burial date  09 / 09 / 1911   

St Helens Cemetery   

Register Number 49705   

Age  69   Years 
 
Grave reference:-
STHELCEM / 4 / 675

 
Title: Re: FRENCH, burials and MI's in Abram
Post by: GrannyM on Sunday 27 July 14 07:13 BST (UK)
thank you Mrs AB :) That is Thomas. There is also a burial for his wife Elizabeth with the same grave reference number. Brilliant :D Another mystery solved.
Many many thanks.