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Title: JOSEPH HARPER B1830 of AIRDRIE NEW MONKLAND - look up please!
Post by: still lookin on Tuesday 22 July 14 08:47 BST (UK)
Hello Folks

My latest research of Joseph HARPER need a wee bit of help!  I have found out via the Chelsea Pension records his birth place is AIRDRIE .. can some one have a look in that area on any available records for Joseph Harper birth 1830 .
Many Thanks in Advance

Tony
Title: Re: JOSEPH HARPER B1830 of AIRDRIE NEW MONKLAND - look up please!
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 22 July 14 09:08 BST (UK)
Tony, have you tried

the International Genealogical Index
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi

and Scotland's People
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

and FreeCEN
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl ?
Title: Re: JOSEPH HARPER B1830 of AIRDRIE NEW MONKLAND - look up please!
Post by: still lookin on Tuesday 22 July 14 11:28 BST (UK)
Hi
I have tried I.G.I , Family Search , FreeCen, ScotlandsPeople ( will check if there any updates )



Title: Re: JOSEPH HARPER B1830 of AIRDRIE NEW MONKLAND - look up please!
Post by: Craclyn on Tuesday 22 July 14 11:36 BST (UK)
1871 census has a Joseph Harper 1830 in Bridgeton, Glasgow, retired army.
Wife Elizabeth 1842.
Children born in East Indies: Elizabeth 10, Joseph 5, John 3
Born in Glasgow: James 0

Significant age difference between Joseph and Elizabeth, so you may also want to consider whether the first 3 children may have belonged to your elusive Isabella or whether Elizabeth is the wife you are looking for.
Title: Re: JOSEPH HARPER B1830 of AIRDRIE NEW MONKLAND - look up please!
Post by: still lookin on Tuesday 22 July 14 11:41 BST (UK)
You beauty! thats him in the 1871 census .. she was 14yrs old when they married in India .. I have the birth cert. He was in India for few years and they had kids there then they went back to Scotland and came to Australia in 1880. Does the census say his birth place?
Title: Re: JOSEPH HARPER B1830 of AIRDRIE NEW MONKLAND - look up please!
Post by: still lookin on Tuesday 22 July 14 11:52 BST (UK)
must add... This Joseph Harper in the 1871 census parent is Joseph and Isabella.
Title: Re: JOSEPH HARPER B1830 of AIRDRIE NEW MONKLAND - look up please!
Post by: GR2 on Tuesday 22 July 14 12:19 BST (UK)
1871 census, 126 Reid Street, Bridgeton, Glasgow:

Joseph Harper, 41, army pensioner (no regular occupation), born Glasgow
Elizabeth Harper, 29, born Glasgow
Elizabeth Harper, 10, born east Indies
Joseph Harper, 5, born East Indies
John Harper, 3, born East Indies
James Harper, "0", born Glasgow

James Lindsay Harper was born to Joseph Harper and Elizabeth Nelson in Bridgeton, Glasgow on 21st November 1870. If you check the original birth certificate on Scotlandspeople (lots of posts here about how to do that), it should give the date and place of his parents' marriage, if you don't have that already. As for Joseph senior giving his place of birth on the census as Glasgow, it is not unusual for folk to be vague and inconsistent about their parish of birth on censuses.

Title: Re: JOSEPH HARPER B1830 of AIRDRIE NEW MONKLAND - look up please!
Post by: still lookin on Tuesday 22 July 14 22:12 BST (UK)
Thats them GR2 ! Its a shame their memory should have been better to make our life easier!!