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The following is a transcript of a letter which I have, it is from from Johney Tyrrell to his sister and father in Ireland:-
Houston, Texas, 2218 Singleton.
Dear Sister and Father,
Just a few lines to let you know I am quite well and hoping you are the same. Times are very hard in this country right now but I am working loading ships I am a foreman. I load some ships going to Dublin sometimes. I will be 57 years old in November I don't look but about 40. I am going to write to Minnie and Michael today. I have all the photos your sent me but I am going to ask Minnie to send me one of Violet is Henry married yet I guess Frank is married by now. Send me Letty's address in Glasgow and I will write to her for she was the only girl in the world that I ever loved. I a'nt got no news to tell you but remember me to all.
I remain as ever your brother
Johney,
Address: 2218 Singleton Street, Houston, Texas, U.S.A.
The above is a letter was written by my great great uncle Johney which was written in the early 1920's - he was one of 5 children his surname was Tyrrell and came from Ireland.
He wrote the letter to his sister Margaret (Maggie Frank) and his Father who was Frank Tyrrell. He referred to Minnie and Michael who were his sister in law and brother respectively, Violet was his niece, Henry and Frank were his nephews (Henry was my grandfather)
He referred to Letty who I think was a distant relation (I stand to be corrected on that).. The address that he wrote from in Texas - the house was built in the 1920's - as far as I am aware he died in the U.S.A. if anyone knows anything about Johney or what happened to him while there can you please leave a message!
Thank you.
Homelands.
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So Frank married to Elizabeth ( but she was not Johney mother) both were Ship Owner born in and living in Co Wicklow, Frank's father Micheal was a Master Mariner and Maggie would have been 20 years younger than Johney
Letty, maybe Letty Fearon who would have been his step sister, daughter of Elizabeth?
I am assuming you have all that information as yu are asking about Johney and what happen to him, you, so you need to look on the USA census and SSDI for him
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Wonder if this is 'your' John Tyrrell ... ?
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=tyrrell&GSfn=john&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=132419701&df=all&
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Just in case you haven't got all this already :)
Letitia ( Letty) married a Edwin Gillard Coleman who was born Philadelphia, he was a clerk of works in Ireland and younger than Letty.
Frank and Elizabeth married in 1900, so Maggie was Johney's half sibling
The family were Church of Ireland and they lived in Bridge Street Arklow Co Wicklow
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Just had to write - what a lovely letter :) I love the bit about his age - there's confidence for you ;)
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Thanks to everyone who read the post and commented on it - can't believe the response in such a short space of time.
Iluleah
As far as I am aware Frank Tyrrell Senior was married twice and Maggie was born in 1885, no idea yet of Johne's date of birth/death.
Letty was Letty Kearon - The Tyrrell, Kearons and Halls were all related - her name is recorded as Fearon on the census but should read Kearon.
Letty as you said was married to a Mr. Gillard Coleman she was born in 1877 - will up load a photo of her when I can find it.
Priscilla thank you for the look up but I don't think it is the person as Johney's father was Frank Tyrrell Senior and not John.... although the dates would seem to be right, so I will look into that, thanks again.
Heywood
Thanks for your post - I was unable to upload the original for some reason which is a pity - great response to just the transcript!
The search goes on.
I have uploaded a photograph of Johney's brothers - Michael who married Minnie. Harry and Frank who both died at sea.
Also attached is the 4 generations of the Tyrrells
Baby Frank is Johney's Nephew
Michael is Johney's brother
Frank is Johney's Father
Michael is Johney's Grandfather.
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Could this be the baptism date of Jonney & his brother Michael I see from the 1901/1911 Ireland census that Frank Tyrrell was living in Arklow Wicklow
http://www.rootschat.com/links/018sc/ - 1901
http://www.rootschat.com/links/018sd/ - 1911
baptism Wicklow Ireland parents Frank TYRRELL & Anne
Elizabeth 16 Jan 1872 Arklow
Michael 24 June 1873
John 12 Nov 1875
Francis 19 April 1878
Henry 2 Nov 1880
the 1901 census shows Frank's father is named Michael
I wonder if this might be Frank's marriage to Anne in 1868 Dublin, Ireland - they both appear to have the same surname Tyrrell - as do their father's
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGZH-7Q4
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Here's a John Tyrrell born c1875 Ireland his occ Hired Man
immigration year 1899), both parents birthplace Ireland
living Milford, Pike, Pennsylvania, United States
has a wife named Mary Tyrrell (immigration 1892) her occ servant both parents birthplace Ireland
they are in the household of Henry B Reed & family
1910 US census https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MGDT-F65
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Maybe John & Mary's son
death 20 Nov 1914 Philadelphia
Francis Tyrrell age 1 parents John & Mary Tyrrell nee DORAN
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JJQ6-Q3L
2243 Wallace, 15th Ward Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
there's this marrriage - you would need to confirm father's name
Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951
John Tyrrell married 1892 surname DORAN
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JV6M-QQS
Don't give mmn 2 other births with parents John Tyrrell & Mary
Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Births, 1860-1906
1899 Peter Tyrrell https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V1MW-Y4J
1903 Thos. Leo Tyrrell https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V1MM-XXF
possible death
1905 Thomas age 2 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JXPH-VPJ
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Could this be the baptism date of Jonney
baptism Wicklow Ireland parents Frank TYRRELL & Anne
John 12 Nov 1875
US Draft Registration 1917-1918
Orange County, Texas, United States
John Tyrrell born 12 Nov 1875 occ Carpenter
med Build & Height, eyes Blue hair grey
nearest relative father Frank Tyrrell of Arklow Ireland
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZX5-CSW
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thanks for all the information! - the draft registration seems to be right and as far as I can make out all the other information seems to fall into place as well -cant believe all this information in the space of a day! thanks again.
homelands.
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Maybe John & Mary's son
death 20 Nov 1914 Philadelphia
Francis Tyrrell age 1 parents John & Mary Tyrrell nee DORAN
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JJQ6-Q3L
2243 Wallace, 15th Ward Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Marriage Indexes, 1885-1951
John Tyrrell married 1892 surname DORAN
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JV6M-QQS
Don't give mmn 2 other births with parents John Tyrrell & Mary
Pennsylvania, Philadelphia City Births, 1860-1906
1899 Peter Tyrrell https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V1MW-Y4J
1903 Thos. Leo Tyrrell https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V1MM-XXF
possible death
1905 Thomas age 2 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JXPH-VPJ
There appear to be two couples on the 1910 US census for Pennsylvania
the one posted earlier appear to be a different couple to the ones that had the above children
Here they are on the 1910 US census with son Peter age 14 and many other children
also living with them is his brother in law John DORAN
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MGD5-LK6
This John Tyrrell's birth date is given as 1867 and his immigration date given as 1888
Here they are on 1900 US census
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3WF-PJY
confirms married 1892, his birth year 1867 immigration 1888
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Here's the other John & Mary from 1910 census Pennsylvania they are now in New York
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MJRX-LRR
1920 Brooklyn Assembly District 17, Kings, New York
John Tyrrell born c1875 Ireland immigration 1899
Mary Tyrrell born c1872 Ireland immigration 1982
Looking back at the US Draft Registration 1917-1918
as nearest relative was given as his father Frank - it's more than likely John wasn't married
so the above John born 1875 could well be a different person
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Wonder if this is 'your' John Tyrrell ... ?
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=tyrrell&GSfn=john&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=132419701&df=all&
If that's a possibility, this is the death certificate: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-25177-143734-15?cc=1983324 It looks like the informant didn't know his date of birth or mother's name, so that seems more likely that the father's name may have been wrong.
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Hi Shellyesq
Thanks for the reply - I would like to think that the death notice does refer to my John Tyrrell, the only query I have with it, is the Fathers name is incorrect, but apart from that it does match up more or less, thanks again for the look up and I am sorry it has taken so long to get back to you.
Homelands.
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baptism Wicklow Ireland parents Frank TYRRELL & Anne
Elizabeth 16 Jan 1872 Arklow
Michael 24 June 1873
John 12 Nov 1875
Francis 19 April 1878
Henry 2 Nov 1880
Hi, would anyone know if Johney's brother Michael in the above quote from Ladyhawk is the same Michael Tyrrell that was the Master of the Adela, which was attacked and sunk in 1917.
I have found Michael living in number 5 Oxford rd, with wife Edith and kids
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_East/Oxford_Road/39884/
Also on the Crew list for the Adela in 1915, living at the same address - 5 Oxford rd.
http://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/crew-member?crew_member_search%5BlastName%5D=tyrrell&crew_member_search%5BfirstName%5D=michael&crew_member_search%5BvesselName%5D=adela&crew_member_search%5Bcapacity%5D=&crew_member_search%5BbirthPlace%5D=&crew_member_search%5Bsubmit%5D
So my question is, is this the same Michael Tyrrell born to Francis and Anne, I cannot find Michael and Edith's marriage which would confirm this.
I'm not related, I'm interested in the Adela and all who sailed on her.
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Michael and Edith married 1901 his father was Robert
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10328/5759941.pdf
Alfred Edgar's birth to double check Edith's surname.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01699/1674124.pdf
His father is a Master Mariner and Michaels address is York Road Kingstown, so this looks like his father and family in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/York_Street/1319744/
The number on the census is a form number which doesn't always match the house number.
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Think this could be Michael's birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03237/2186500.pdf
And baptism
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPBJ-NMZ
Ah good the crew list gives his birth place as Arklow
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kns/
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Thanks Sinnann,
Seems I was barking up the wrong tree. Though today I found a tree that mentioned an Edith Emily Warley that married a Michael Tyrrell in Ireland 1901.
Father John Warley mother Sarah Humphrey Goodrick, living Yorkshire.( Even though I had the wrong Michael) I looked up the census for Edith as this would be the year she was due to marry.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001308775/
Should read Leavening.
Thanks again Sinnann