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After any information on Rosses/Boomers of Portaferry. I'm at work at the moment so I've no dates to hand.
Grandfather was Patrick Ross who worked on the Irish Lights (South Rock). Born c1900 and died 1965 (?). He was married to Elizabeth Love (b4/8/1900). He had a sister Mary Bridget (also lived/died in Portaferry) and a brother William who ran (poss still in the family) a taxi firm in Dublin. His father was Willie John Ross who had 2 sisters Susanna (married 'Piebald' Magee) and Sarah Jane (married Matthews) and a brother James (son Andy).
Willie John married Jane Boomer (b 11/11/1865?, d1940). She had 6 siblings - twins Kate (married Johnny Ellison) and Becky (married McMullan) (b18/4/1868), Lisa/Liza (married McGill), Jimmy (went to the US) and 2 others - names not known.
Parents were James Boomer and Eliza Sullivan (1 or both possibly from Newry/Louth?). James had at least one brother Phil who married somebody called McDade.
Early days yet on this branch so any/all help welcome.
Damien
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Hello Damien,
There is a Portaferry Community Website (http://www.portaferry.net) and a Forum where you could post a message. They have not got a genealogy board or a history board on their site at the moment. I have to post them a message requesting a link back as I have created a link to their site on another website where I am a regular poster so I'll ask them about the possibility of a genealogy board. I'm a believer in the potential of local websites and had this point proved when I got a message from someone who told me she had posted on such a site and they had found a living descendent of the ancestor she was seeking.
If we both tell the Portaferry Forum people about RootsChat in our messages we may get a few members from that part of the world.
Best wishes with your search,
Chris
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Thanks Chris.
I'm local to Portaferry (7 miles or so) and still have relatives there so I think I've got most of the 'local' info. I'm trying to get a bit further back. I'm guessing that my g-g-grandfather (Ross side) came to Portaferry, possibly from Scotland but no luck so far. On the Boomer side, the info I have so far seems to point to him coming form Carlingford and surrounds so I'm checking that at the moment.
Having said that, I think a link would be a good idea and will email them. Apart from what I've learned from family there's a few other names that have surfaced that they don't recognise (Byers and Blaney to name but two!). Both names are still around but I've found no links so far.
Damien
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Some additional info following a trip to PRONI;
James Boomer married Eliza Sullivan 10 Aug 1851
Children of James and Eliza
Jane Boomer, 31 May 1852 - witnesses Henry Farringham (?) and Jane Boomer (James' sister?)
James Boomer, 14 May 1854 - witnesses John Dorrian and Annie Sullivan (Eliza's sister?)
Brigid Boomer, 30 May 1856 - witnesses William Magennis and Jane Boomer
Catherine Boomer, 11 Sept 1856 - witnesses John Edmonde and ??? Savage
Roseanne Boomer, 8 Oct 1856 - witness Ann Sullivan
Jane and Catherine, 11 Nov 1865
Brigid, Catherine, Roseanne - all in 1856 doesn't add up. I'm guessing the dates are wrong or it's totally different people. My guess would be that Roseanne is right going by the witness - Ann Sullivan. I know the twins info is right (mother remembers them).
If the earlier Jane is right then I assume she died - was it common to 're-use' names when this happened?
I also found
Philip and Eliza Boomer (nee McDade?) had two children:
Catherine, 18 Sept 1852
Michael 4 may 1855
Maybe ring some new bells :-)
I've found no other Boomers locally - nearest I've found is Donaghadee. Fair way off but maybe connected.
Damien
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Hi all,
I have been trying to connect my Dickson/Mawhinney family to this one:
1. Andrew2 Dickson (David1) He married Ann Jane Boomer 14 January 1862 in Dromore Unitarian Church, daughter of James Boomer. She was born in Gervaghy.
Ann Jane BOOMER is also listed as BOWMAN in some documents. Maybe that is where yours are too.
Hope it helps...
Ruth
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1882 wedding of John Taylor [b 1857, Antrim; father John] of Suffolk married Alice Dixon [b 1866 Antrim; father George] of Upper Falls: Thomas Lunn and Henry Boomer
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Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 26 Sep 1905
Groom Name samuel NELSON
Bride Name elizabeth BOOMER
Church Saint Annes Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 27 Aug 1867
Groom Name james MORROW
Bride Name henrietta BOOMER
Church Dunmurry Non Subscribing Presbyterian Church
Parish Drumbeg
Civil District Lisburn
County Antrim
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 02 May 1885
Groom Name thomas NESBITT
Bride Name sarah ann BOOMER
Church Lisburn Cathedral Church of Ireland
Parish Blaris
Civil District Lisburn
County Antrim / Down
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 16 Jul 1895
Groom Name william BOOMER
Bride Name elizabeth CAMPBELL
Church Railway Street Second Presbyterian Church
Parish Blaris
Civil District Lisburn
County Antrim / Down
Entry Details
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 20 Mar 1854
Groom Name james BOOMER
Bride Name jane MAWHINNEY
Church Shore Street Presbyterian Church
Parish Donaghadee
Civil District Newtownards
County Down
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Re the Portaferry Boomers I've done a bit more research and it raises some more questions (doesn't it always??!!) which I hope somebody can help with. I've put the questions/comments in red but any other info much appreciated. What I have is:
James Boomer married Elizabeth (Eliza) Sullivan 10/8/1851. Children were (parents listed as James and Eliza):
1 Jane b 31/5/1852 - ties in with wedding date
2 James b 14/5/1854 I think he went to America/Canada but found nothing so far - seems to have disappeared!
3 Brigid b 30/5/1856 - married Patrick Hughes in Belfast. OK as I knew there was a Hughes tie-in somewhere along the line.
4 Elizabeth b8/5/1859 - Married Magill from Killyleagh. No info on him as yet. In 1901 she was living with family in Portaferry so either widowed or separated
5 Catherine b 1/9/1861
6 Roseanne b 8/10/1863 Story is (I think it's her anyway as she's the only unattached one I have) she married a Protestant and the family disowned her. She wasn't talked about so no information. My mother didn't even know the name, just that the event happened. Thinks he was well to do and may have been a coal merchant, possibly Belfast - any chance of checking?
7 Catherine and Jane, twins, b 11/11/1865 There was already a Jane and a Catherine so I'm thinking perhaps they died and the names used again - is this likely? Was it common or am I looking at 2 different families? Only memory of one in Portaferry and my mother remembers the twins.
8 Rebecca b 26/4/1868
I'm reasonably happy with 2,3,4, 7 and 8. 1 and 5 - OK if names re-used
Now James had a brother Philip and I have him marrying Elizabeth McDade 23/10/1852
I also have an adult baptism Elizabeth McDade (Sponsor Jane Boomer) 21/11/1852
My first thought (as far as I know the Boomers were Catholic, though Protestant at one time as the origin is the French Hugenots) and that Elizabeth McDade converted before marrying Philip and that one of the dates was wrong. However, when I checked the records I found they were married in the Church of Ireland in Portaferry - any suggestions as to what might have happened here? Two Elizabeth McDades? For Philips marriage the father is listed as 'Rainey Boomer' which I think comes from the French Rene indicating the family roots but I've foudn nothing on him that ties in date wise so I'm no closer to finding where they came from prior to being in Portaferry.
On the Boomer side, going on the sponsors at baptisms it seems that James had a brother Philip and a sister Jane at least.
Ditto on the Sullivan side, it looks like a brother Pat and sister Annie (could be married name I suppose)
Any/all help suggestions as to where I might go next much appreciated
Damien
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hi might be able to help with some of the above queries
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furter to above query can help with dublin link cherrs kr
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There is a Portaferry Community Website (http://www.portaferry.net) and a Forum where you could post a message. They have not got a genealogy board or a history board on their site at the moment. I have to post them a message requesting a link back as I have created a link to their site on another website where I am a regular poster so I'll ask them about the possibility of a genealogy board. I'm a believer in the potential of local websites and had this point proved when I got a message from someone who told me she had posted on such a site and they had found a living descendent of the ancestor she was seeking.
If we both tell the Portaferry Forum people about RootsChat in our messages we may get a few members from that part of the world.
And while you're at it, tell them to have a word with their buddies in Kircubbin. The Kircubbin site hasn't functioned for months, probably years.
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hi have some certs relative to the ross boomer but boomer is a maternal link and i have marriage certs and baptismal certs for this im dublin connection me think
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Clammawr- damienb who posted the information earlier hasn't been online since Dec.2007 so it may be a while if he does reply.
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appreciate that cheers just came onto site for first time myself thanks
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Still here! :)
Been checking periodically (obviously not logged on!) to see if there were any responses - not made a lot of progress. The name "Rainey" (Rene?) and the fact he was a blacksmith makes me think Lisburn may be worth checking out as I've seen both mentioned re Boomers there.
I've also been a bit sidetracked as I've been chasing up the Braniff side though getting towards the end of the line there too I think (back to around 1800).
Clammawr, I'd be interested in any info you may have - I know my mother said she's talked to some of the Dublin crowd on various occasions when they visited but I think that was some time ago now.
Merry Xmas all.
Damien
Damien
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Hi Damien,
Perhaps these may be of some help
Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 22 May 1886
Groom Name richard MITCHELL
Bride Name rose anne BOOMER
Church Saint Annes Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim
Wills Calendars
Date of Death 18 Jul 1897
Year of Probate 1898
Name Reney Boomer
County Antrim
Residence Old Park Lisburn
Sio
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Thanks Sio - looks promising. Something to keep me occupied during the holidays:-)
Damien
Done a bit more research (not a lot further forward though!) and have some additional information. What I'm after is any advice on the best place to search next :-)
I'm sure (well 99%!) that the Boomers in Portaferry (James m Eliza Sullivan and Phil m Eliza(beth) McDade) were brothers. Looking at the births and who sponsored them when they were baptized I now also have:
Elizabeth Boomer, Jane Boomer, Patrick Sullivan and Ann Sullivan - I'm guessing from this that Elizabeth and Jane were sisters to James and Phl and that Pat was a brother to Liza and Ann either a sister or possibly married to Pat (or another brother!)
Phil's marriage info indicates he was a labourer and his father was Rainey Boomer, a blacksmith. Eliza McDade's father was William, a shoemaker.
Any suggestions as to where I might go next would be much appreciated - they must have come from somewhere!
Damien
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Hi damiemb,
Somebody sent me this posting thinking we may be connected.
I have BOOMERs all through my genealogy. I saw a couple of connections like Lisburn, Dunmurry and Boomer of course. I read all of your names and I haven't made a connection, but then I'm stuck in my genealogy and can't get back further than three generations.From what I have read my Boomers and families all belonged to the church of Ireland. Lisburn Cathedral and Derriaghy church of Ireland. Something happened that the first name became Boomer (my grandfather and others) I feel that when one of the Boomer women got married, and had a different last name, they named the boys first name as Boomer to carry the name on.
I wish I could make a connection but will have to have a better look at your names.
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Some additional info following a trip to PRONI;
James Boomer married Eliza Sullivan 10 Aug 1851
Children of James and Eliza
Jane Boomer, 31 May 1852 - witnesses Henry Farringham (?) and Jane Boomer (James' sister?)
James Boomer, 14 May 1854 - witnesses John Dorrian and Annie Sullivan (Eliza's sister?)
Brigid Boomer, 30 May 1856 - witnesses William Magennis and Jane Boomer
Catherine Boomer, 11 Sept 1856 - witnesses John Edmonde and ??? Savage
Roseanne Boomer, 8 Oct 1856 - witness Ann Sullivan
Jane and Catherine, 11 Nov 1865
Yes the parents did use the name of a child that died. In my family it was so important to keep the Boomer name there were three Boomers as the other two had died.
Brigid, Catherine, Roseanne - all in 1856 doesn't add up. I'm guessing the dates are wrong or it's totally different people. My guess would be that Roseanne is right going by the witness - Ann Sullivan. I know the twins info is right (mother remembers them).
If the earlier Jane is right then I assume she died - was it common to 're-use' names when this happened?
I also found
Philip and Eliza Boomer (nee McDade?) had two children:
Catherine, 18 Sept 1852
Michael 4 may 1855
Maybe ring some new bells :-)
I've found no other Boomers locally - nearest I've found is Donaghadee. Fair way off but maybe connected.
Damien
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Anyone having any luck with the BOOMERS?
Has anyone ever joined the Huguenot site? I wonder what records they have.
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Hi,
Is anyone still out there??
Have just discovered my Boomer connection. My Boomer is Mary Jane Boomer born 02/12/1827 to William Boomer & Eliza Smith in Antrim,Northern Ireland. Mary Jane may have also had a brother Henry born 1831. She went onto marry a Robert Moore in about 1850 ish. Her father William was born in either 1804 or 1806.
Do any of these names look familiar to anyone?
Regards
Coreen
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Portaferry's a good bit away from County Antrim.
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Ok - didn't realise that.
Coreen
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Hi Damien
interesting to see your post concerning susanna ross/piebald magee Iam there grandson
I was wondering if you have any information of origin of piebald magee.
regards davie