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Title: George Patterson
Post by: tucsonda on Monday 07 July 14 23:21 BST (UK)
Looking for relatives of George Patterson OBE Commodore Engineer for Cunard Fleet. In particular relatives of one of his sons Harold.
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: Victor Harvey on Tuesday 08 July 14 07:43 BST (UK)
Hi, Welcome to RootsChat.
Some dates and county/parish would help.
Victor
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: tucsonda on Tuesday 08 July 14 13:48 BST (UK)
George Patterson OBE married to Alice
Died Sept 1941 aged 77 buried in Rhyl Cemetry with Alice and daughter Amy Gertrude Patterson
All re-united
Lived in Southampton Marbella house I believe and Rhyl North Wales
Chief Engineer on Cunard ships Aquitania and Lusitania
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 08 July 14 14:00 BST (UK)
link deleted.
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 08 July 14 14:07 BST (UK)
I think that we may stray into sticky territory with living relatives here.

Red boxed - Rosie, your link takes me back to this thread
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 08 July 14 14:16 BST (UK)

Red boxed - Rosie, your link takes me back to this thread

I have deleted the link.  Sorry the sun has gone to my head.  :)

Welcome to rootschat tucsonda.

What information are you after.  We are not allowed to put information about possibly living people on here, rootschat is mainly for researching those who have gone before us.

Rosie
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 08 July 14 14:19 BST (UK)
Welcome from me too :)

George Patterson of 133 Wellington Rd, Rhyl, Flintshire died 2 September 1941 at The War Memorial Hospital, Rhyl.  Probate Liverpool 22 December 1941 to Elizabeth Alice Patterson widow.

Effects £7808 8s 11d.
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 08 July 14 14:27 BST (UK)
1901 census, with 2 year old Harold on it RG13; Piece: 3453; Folio: 25; Page: 41
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 08 July 14 14:35 BST (UK)
1901 census, with 2 year old Harold on it RG13; Piece: 3453; Folio: 25; Page: 41

Excellent - which takes us to Harold's baptism, in turn yielding his birthdate of 11 Feb 1899:

St Mary, Walton on the Hill, Lancashire

29 March 1899


Harold Patterson, born 11 Feb 1899 - son of George Patterson, engineer, & Elizabeth Alice

Abode: 21 Weldon Street, Walton

Baptised by: F. Johnson (curate).
     

See http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 08 July 14 14:47 BST (UK)
Harold became a merchant mariner; there is evidence (including matching birthday) linking him to the Berengaria in 1924 and 1928.
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 08 July 14 14:55 BST (UK)
Elizabeth Alice Patterson of 25 Coast Rd Rhyl Flintshire widow died 25 September 1951. 

Probate Bangor 3 December 1951 to Harold Patterson shipyard engineer and Horace Mellor Wilson* commercial cashier.  Effects £8922 8s 2d.

*Horace Mellor Wilson died in 1974 aged 85.
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 08 July 14 15:01 BST (UK)
Harold Patterson born 11 Feb 1899 died in Southampton in Sep qtr 1975 (vol 20 p 978).
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: tucsonda on Tuesday 08 July 14 16:37 BST (UK)
Thanks for all the info so far folks .....
George Patterson's Son's and Daughters:
Emma
George
Harold
Elsie
Amy
Reginald
I lost contact with that side of the my family so have no idea of their status alive or whatever
How do I contact possible surviving members of my family ?
Can I post my email address here ? Or how else can I make contact? Help needed here .

Wylva 27 then is related and appears with her sons  in a picture I have of   George Patterson
Gerald 17 then is also in the photo circa 1935
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: tucsonda on Tuesday 08 July 14 16:49 BST (UK)
RMS Aquitania 25 june 1921 Southampton to New York via Cherbourg

Senior Officers and Staff

    Captain: Sir James Charles, K.B.E., C.B., R.D., R.N.R.
    Staff-Captain: F. E. Storey, R.D., R.N.R.
    Chief Engineer: G. Patterson, O.B.E.
    St. Ch. Engineer: R. Shortridge
    Surgeon: B. Sydney Jones
    Asst. Surgeon: M. Richards
    Chief Steward: F. V. Jones
    Ch Officer: P. A. Murchie.
    Purser: C. T. Spedding
    Second Purser: C. N. Baildon
    Asst. Purser: W. E. Hughes
    Extra Chief Steward: B. Powell
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: tucsonda on Tuesday 08 July 14 18:19 BST (UK)
George Patterson's wife Alice , maiden name Alice O' Conner
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 08 July 14 18:27 BST (UK)
George Patterson's wife Alice , maiden name Alice O' Conner

As you will have seen from the information already posted on this thread, George's wife's full name was Elizabeth Alice.

What is the source of your belief that her maiden name was "O'Conner"?

It looks to me more likely that she was Elizabeth Alice Connell, daughter of Owen Connell, and that she was 23 when she married George Patterson (22, father also George) at Walton on the Hill, Lancs on 8 May 1887.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFBF-YL8
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 08 July 14 18:30 BST (UK)
Reginald Patterson may have died 8 Jan 1960 in Southampton.  His probate record mentions an Emily Patterson, widow.
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 08 July 14 18:32 BST (UK)
In which case, I think Reginald Patterson married Emily Banner Dec qtr 1921, West Derby, Lancs 8b 743
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: Spidermonkey on Tuesday 08 July 14 18:35 BST (UK)
And from the Patterson/Banner marriage I think there are 3, perhaps 4 sons born between 1922 and 1947 (doubtful about this last one, but right combination of names)
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: tucsonda on Tuesday 08 July 14 23:41 BST (UK)
Brill info.......
Elizabeth Alice (O'Conner) must be wrong.... thanks for the correction

The name Banner rings a bell.........thinking .........

Wylva married Robin Partingdon last address Wheathamstead,St Albans' Herts
Might have been married twice
Info I have is she died 24th Feb 1984.
Not sure how she fits into the picture with George Patterson
Title: Re: George Patterson
Post by: Spidermonkey on Wednesday 09 July 14 06:46 BST (UK)
Wylva's death index gives a date of birth as 27 Jan 1917.  Looks like she married a Coombs in 1935, Southampton registration district, followed by Partington in 1964 in Hatfield registration district.

Her maiden name, I think, was Taylor.