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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: Tanya_K on Monday 07 July 14 10:53 BST (UK)
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According to the records in Ancestry.com, Thomas Wright, who was born about 1826 or 1827 in England, arrived in Boston, Massachusetts in 1848. He might have married Catherine Doyle, my third great-grandmother, in 1845. However, no records show where he and Catherine married, although records on ancestry.com and Family Search. org show that their eldest son, Edward, was born in Massachusetts between 1842 and 1846. I wonder whether it's possible that Catherine traveled abroad before she married him? I do know that he became an American citizen in 1853 and died on October 21, 1860.
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There is a marriage for Thomas Hiscocks Wright and Catharine Ann Doyle 11 Nov 1844 in Boston. I see that you have ancestry - this record can be found in Massachusetts Town & Vital Records. There are also entries in that record collection for possible siblings of Edward W Wright.
I think I have found Thomas , Catherine & Edward in the 1850 Federal Census and also in 1860 where Thomas' birthplace is given as Wellshire , England , possibly Wiltshire ? May I ask where you found the death record , as I have not spotted it so far ?
Christine
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I don't have access to worldwide but I see his naturalisation gives a birth date of 10 October 1826. does it give any more personal info about him?
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Christine, I think it was Wiltshire, because there was no such place as Wellshire in England. It may have been a misspelling on the transcriber's part when they were conducting the 1850 U.S. Census. I wondered when Thomas and Catherine married, although I suspected it was in the 1840s. :-) When my mother and I
subscribed to Ancestry.com in 2005-2006, I had found Thomas Wright's immigration records and the 1850 Census. He was living in South Scituate, Plymouth Co., Massachusetts, not in Boston, Suffolk Co. You have spotted it so far. He and Catherine also had Thomas F. Wright, who became a concert pianist, Adeline Wright,born in 1854, who married Frank Hollis of Massachusetts and had a son, Frank W.Hollis. Frank went on to become one half of the vaudeville duo Kenny and Hollis. Mary Agnes Wright, born in 1856 or 1858, married Arthur H. Kemp, so there's some Irish as well as English ancestry on my mother's father's side. Thomas F. Wright was the only one who never married.
Thank you for your help in finding their marriage records. One aspect of his records stymies me, though. He arrived in Boston, Massachusetts in 1848 on the ship Milton.
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I forgot to mention that I found their records on Family Search. Silly me.
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Hi Tanya ,
Taking into account what you have said about Adeline Hollis then I can safely say that Thomas Wright did not die in 1860 as I have found the family on the 1880 US census . Some of the ages are a bit out and the transcription is variable but I found :
Thos. Wright 55 tin plate worker b Conn parents England / England
E C ( ? ) Wright 48 wife b Mass.
Thomas F Wright son 24 musician Mass.
F Hollis 28 son in law
Adeline Hollis 24 dau
F Hollis grandson
Mary Kemp 22 dau
Thos E Kemp 2 grandson
( Hollis has been transcribed as HOLUS )
address Boston , Suffolk , Massachusetts
Thomas Wright senior gives has birthplace as Connecticut on 3 occasions so perhaps his parents came from Wiltshire.
Christine
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well looking at the 1880 US census Thomas is still alive and kicking! living with daughter adeline and husband and also Mary Kemp and her son Thomas kemp, Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, ED 757 page 300a
wife is EC wright - I expect it should be A wright
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Her name is A.C. (short for Ann Catherine) Wright. In the Kemp family book, it does say that Thomas H. Wright was born in CT to parents who were born in Wiltshire, England. If that's true, why does his naturalization document say he was naturalized as a U.S. citizen in 1853? It's a puzzle to me, too. ;-)
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can you put up the naturalisation details you have . perhaps it is not your thomas wright . there are a few others around Massachusetts including one born England in boston.
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I can't see any details on the naturalisation document which would confirm that it refers to this Thomas Wright. As vronlady says , there are other possibilities , including the Thomas Wright who died 21 Oct 1860 who we now know is not your Thomas Wright. Given that your Thomas married in 1844 and had his first child , Edward W , in Massachusetts I don't think that the Thomas Wright who arrived in 1848 on the Milton is yours either.
Christine
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I think if you know for absolutely certain that his wife's maiden name is doyle it would be worth getting the marriage certificate mentioned earlier and see what that says.
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The 1844 marriage details came from an entry in a register of Boston marriages included in the Massachusetts Town & Vital records on ancestry. There are no names of parents or witnesses given unfortunately.
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I can. Here's the link to the document. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14726-77133-40?cc=1840474
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Tanya that is the same document I viewed on ancestry - just because a Thomas Wright from Boston born in England in 1826 was naturalised in 1853 that doesn't prove that it's your Thomas Wright !
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Now, that's what stumps me. Christine. :-/
As far as I know, Thomas Wright was the father of Edward, Thomas, Adeline, and Mary. Mary was the mother of Thomas Edward Lewis Kemp, my great-grandfather. Thank you for helping me, though. :-)
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do you have marys birth certificate to be sure of her mothers maiden name. if so then the next best way forward would be to get the actual marriage certificate of Thomas and ann Catherine.
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I don't, but I could ask one of my maternal aunts, who has researched the Doyle, Wright, and Kemp lines. I wrote down the information from Family Search, though. It says that Mary married Arthur H. Kemp on August 14, 1876 in Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts. Her parents, Thomas and Catherine, are listed in the marriage records and so are her in-laws, Samuel Kemp and Annie M. Baldwin. This record, however, says she was born about 1857 and that she was 19.
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well this is her birth on family search
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13033-15424-4?cc=1536925
which gives full birth date but not Catherine's maiden name. it does however state father Thomas as being born England :-\
adelines death seems to confirm mothers maiden name as doyle
Addie Hollis, widow of Frank Hollis, d 2 Sep 1910 Boston,,Massachusetts
b Boston, Massachusetts, parents Thomas Wright & Catherine Doyle
so I would definitely get the marriage certificate to get all the details.
I don't know which part of the world you are in.
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I live in Jordan, which is in the Middle East. The information you have about Addie Wright Hollis is accurate. I might have to ask my mother to order the marriage certificate for Thomas Wright and Catherine Doyle.
Do you also include Ireland in RootsChat? I'm trying to verify where John Doyle, born about 1799, and his wife, Margaret, born about 1801 in Ireland, were married. I looked up Margaret Doyle's maiden name and where in Ireland she grew up, in the 1821 Census. It's possible that she lived in Lettertuna, Seskin, King's County (now County Offaly), in Ireland, and possibly married John Doyle there.
This Margaret Doyle gave also gave birth to Mary A. and Adeline Doyle in Charlestown, Suffolk, Massachusetts in about 1830 and 1832. Ann Catherine was born in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts in about 1825, and not 1830, as I thought for the longest time. The 1825 passenger list doesn't list her maiden name, though.