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Title: Request for Info
Post by: plod3091 on Friday 04 July 14 21:10 BST (UK)
Good evening, as I am new to this please forgive any mistakes.

I am looking to trace any information on my late grandfather Thomas Danks. I know he was associated with the Bradford Pals and Leeds Pals I have camera footage of him setting off on a trip to France and the bus had a note on the window saying Bradford/Leeds Pals.

He trained at a place called Colsterworth as I remember visiting it as a young child, I know he ran communications wires in the trenches as I read that in one of his diaries many years ago. I am trying to track down which regiment he was a member of and what active service he saw.

Is this too much of an ask or can anyone help me?
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 04 July 14 21:18 BST (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Could you tell us your grandfathers birthyear and confirm whether he was born in Yorkshire as well as living there?

Re: active service - WW1 or WW2?

If WW2 - please see  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=651361.0
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: plod3091 on Friday 04 July 14 21:32 BST (UK)
I do not unfortunately have his year of birth but would be around 1895-7. He did live in Yorkshire. His sister lived in Leeds so I am assuming a lot that that is probably where he was born as well but I cannot confirm this. I am looking for war service WW1 if this info helps.

I know also he was a private soldier
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 04 July 14 21:38 BST (UK)
The only birth reg in Yorkshire was 1899 - Sheffield.

Let's try another way.  What was your grandmothers christian name and maiden name

What year did your grandfather die and did he die in Yorkshire?  I can only find 3 deaths for his name in Yorkshire and 2 had middle names.  None were born in the 1890's
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 04 July 14 21:40 BST (UK)
There is a death in Bradford in 1981 for a Tom Danks b January 1895
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: plod3091 on Friday 04 July 14 22:08 BST (UK)
That is him. I always thought his name was Thomas!
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 04 July 14 22:19 BST (UK)
It may well have been his christian name at birth - difficult to say without more info as there is no Tom Danks birth in 1895

It's not looking as though he was born in Yorkshire so more info is needed as there are many Thomas Danks entries on the WW1 medal roll index but no WW1 service records for his name

Over 60% of WW1 service records were burnt during the WW2 blitz

From my reply above so I can see what name he married under

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What was your grandmothers christian name and maiden name
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: Annette7 on Saturday 05 July 14 00:14 BST (UK)
Checking other Danks deaths in Bradford the only likely female who could be is wife was a Mary J. R. bc.1893 (forgot to note when she died).

I then looked for a Mary J. R. who married a Danks and found Mary J. R. Jones married Thomas Danks in Mar.qtr.1920 West Derby, Lancashire.

Looking at census looks like Thomas Danks was probably born in Birmingham but there are 2/3 contenders.    If you can confirm he married a Mary you might have to purchase marriage certificate to confirm the name of his father to pin down which Thomas Danks is yours.

Annette
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: Annette7 on Saturday 05 July 14 00:37 BST (UK)
Looks like I found right marriage but wrong Thomas.

There is an public online tree that shows Thomas Danks born (Mar.qtr.) 1895 (West Derby, Lancs) - 1901 Census states birthplace as Liverpool.

His parents are shown on the tree as Thomas Guy Danks and Aylison Mary Hulse who married 1894 Liverpool and he had a sister named Doris Aylison in 1901 so don't know if this is the sister you refer to.

He is shown as marrying 1920 to Mary Jane Rennie Jones (both of them dying in Bradford) and that they had a daughter born in 1927.

Annette   
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: lyn22 on Saturday 05 July 14 00:37 BST (UK)
On Find my Past I can see a Thomas Danks WW1 Service Number 52034 Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry Regiment. Take Care Lynette
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: Annette7 on Saturday 05 July 14 00:45 BST (UK)
A Doris A. Danks married at Leeds in 1941 and the daughter of Thomas and Mary (born 1927) married in Bradford 1953 so looks like the right family.

So looks like Thomas and Mary moved from Lancashire to Yorkshire sometime after the birth of their daughter.

Annette
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: Annette7 on Saturday 05 July 14 00:57 BST (UK)
There are no Thomas Danks with a Lancashire Regiment and I doubt he'd have been in a Yorkshire one at that time (although they could be allocated to any one).

With no surviving service or pension records for him he could have been in any regiment - 2 are in Yorkshire regiments, 4 in Scottish ones, 2 in Royal Field Artillery, 1 Royal Engineers, and 1 Royal Army Medical Corps.   Unless someone in your family has some information there really is no way of second-guessing which regiment he was in.

Annette
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: WestYorks on Saturday 12 July 14 17:40 BST (UK)
There is a medal index card for a Thomas Danks (15/265) West Yorkshire Regiment. The Leeds and Bradford Pals battalion's were part of the West Yorks regiment.

The 15/ prefix to his service number would usually signify that he had enlisted with the 15th battalion of the West Yorks. The 15th Bn was  otherwise known as the 1st Leeds Pals Battalion.

http://www.1914-1918.net/westyorks.htm
http://www.leeds-pals.com/home
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeds_Pals

Mick.
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: plod3091 on Sunday 13 July 14 12:19 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your fantastic help. I can now hopefully complete the plaque I am making up in memory of Tom Danks.
Title: Re: Request for Info
Post by: mmm45 on Wednesday 16 July 14 17:47 BST (UK)
Laurie Milner has written a book on the Leeds Pals
You may find a photo in it.He is an original member with the 15/prefix and I'm sure he will at least be listed in the nominal

Ady