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SBS Australia has announced the new 2014 series showing on 7.30pm Tuesdays. Details:
http://www.sbs.com.au/shows/whodoyouthinkyouare/episodes/page/i/1/h/Episodes/
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I watched Andrew Denton last night on WDYTYA and was most impressed with him. He took in everything that was told to him and you could see he was very moved regarding it all, but he didn't go over the top and was very respectful to each of the people he met when learning about the dreadful things done to his family and others during the war. A most touchable episode.
Bev
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Bev, I agree completely with everything you said! He came across very well.
Anyone in Australia who missed the programme can watch it:
http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/
(scroll down the page a bit and click on the WDYTYA box)
Highly recommended. :)
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Bev, I agree completely with everything you said! He came across very well.
Anyone in Australia who missed the programme can watch it:
http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/
(scroll down the page a bit and click on the WDYTYA box)
Highly recommended. :)
Not available outside Australia unfortunately.
Blue
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Bev, I agree completely with everything you said! He came across very well.
Anyone in Australia who missed the programme can watch it:
http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/
(scroll down the page a bit and click on the WDYTYA box)
Highly recommended. :)
Not available outside Australia unfortunately.
Blue
Yes, that's a shame. It works the other way too - we can't watch your TV programmes on 'catch up'. :(
We use bit torrents to download UK TV programmes, but I'm not sure what is available to you from our part of the world. I'm not sure how popular WDYTYA Australia even is. Not many comments on this thread so unsure if that is a reflection. It is shown on SBS which I think is a less popular TV station.
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Hi again,
I was thrilled to see it starting again and was amazed that there wasn't much comment on this as well. It would be a pity if it was lost to us because of lack of committment on Australian audiences.
Perhaps they may enjoy Rebecca Gibney's WDYTYA next Tuesday.
Bev
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I watched it and recorded it, as I have done for just about all previous Who Do U Tk U R programmes whether Australian, British or American.
It was very moving when Andrew met up with the sole survivor from Treblinka even though I have seen so many such stories about the other camps.
My only comment was that it is very doubtful that he could be a descendant of King David for in that case he would have to belong to the Ydna Haplogroup R1b1a2. King David was King Dayhwt III of the 18th Dynasty in Egypt. This is beyond any doubt and we can prove that his grandson who was the renowned King Solomon was Salim Amen III aka Ymn Htp III of Egypt. According to IGenea of Switzerland King David V of Egypt (commonly referred to as 'Tut') was R1b1a2 and he was the great grandson of the legendary King David for whom we also have much evidence identifying who he was.
I maintain that it is doubtful that Andrew could be a descendant since his father was Jewish and their dna though very much varied belongs mostly to other groups. On the other hand most people in Britain do have a common ancestor with King David.
The evidence has been published in several books and if anyone is interested I can direct them to internet pages which list it all.
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Agree with you Bev.
There were some lively discussions about previous Australian series, but this seemed to tail off a bit with the last series, possibly due to rootschat member Stoodly (Diana) leaving Artemis Films.
I think she welcomed our feedback and I'm sure if another member of the team who produces Australian WDYTYA were to join in our discussions there would be renewed interest on this forum.
I suppose it must be popular enough for them to produce this new series but we know how fickle people are and how previously popular TV programmes can just lose audience for some unknown reason.
I've been watching A Place Called Home on Channel 7. I found the series quite compelling, the first series did well, but this second series has flopped and although a third series has been written, the show has been cancelled due to falling audiences. Such a shame. It was a really good yarn and something a little different for Australian audiences.
I blame the broadcasting times - I would think a similar audience for that and Masterchef and to have the two programmes clashing especially when Masterchef had been running for so long and people were committed to watching it, to have them opposing was stupidity. Similar with WDYTYA, which also starts at 7.30, the same time as Masterchef. I actually watched WDYTYA on catchup ...
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Hi Malcolm and Ruskie
They gave him the bad news that there was no evidence of him being a descendent of King David's and he made a joke about it in good fun.
Ruskie, I was naive enough to think that we would have some good programs once 2,3,7,9 and 10 got their extra stations, but all they do now is just show the rubbish they have accumulated over the years on them and any new shows are just run for 2 series then cancelled. I would presume it is cheaper to show the rubbish than produce good programs for the audiences and all they are after is profits. Which really shouldn't surprise me.
The same goes for the newspapers and magazines. They are only interested in letting viewers know what is happening before the particular episode and some of the things they say are very nasty. I used to read a lot of them, but when you see the headlines you can work out what they are going to put in the magazine on any particular week.
Bev
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Rebecca Gibney:
What did we all think? Pretty sad stories on both sides.
I thought there was a big gap in research between her abusive grandfather Way and her ggg?grandfather James Way (immigrant) and his 'immoral' ways. I thought they were going to try to work out what drove her grandfather to be the abuser he was, but instead they showed the second James who was in the military who appeared to be fairly upstanding. From a ggggrandfather running a brothel to a grandfather who abused his daughter is a fairly large leap - are we to assume it was hereditary?
Nor did it go any way to explaining why her father was an abusive alcoholic (and I thought this was something they were attempting to uncover).
Not sure how I felt about her apologising to the Maori for her gggrandfather's actions either. :-\
A few too many tears in this episode for my liking though I think Rebecca and her Mum seemed like nice people. :) Though sad, I'm not sure finding out that two of your gggrandfather's siblings died is tear-worthy. (I'm just a hard hearted soul :))
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I'm looking for forward to seeing both episodes eventually. I should have been watching them here, as I'm back with my NSW family, but the television I bought for the granny flat June 2013, which has only had a total of 4 months use, wouldn't start when I arrived last week!
Most annoying!
So while I can't commentate on either episode, I can say that a friend who is recording them for me said that the Andrew Denton episode was excellent.
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Dee, you know you can watch the programmes on 'catch up'? They are only viewable for a limited time - I think Andrew Dentons is up till the 22nd of July.
Yes, although the Denton story is not new (several UK celebrities have met with similar confronting ancestry), he came across extremely well I think.
Rebecca Gibney's search was interesting in that is was different and took us to NZ (a first I think?). There was a fair paper trail for her Way ancestors too.
Sorry Dee, don't read this too carefully if you haven't seen the programmes yet. I wouldn't want to spoil it for you.
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It was nice, but in my opinion as I don't know if she is a very emotional person or not or because she is an actress and just Acts, it put me off a bit.
I suppose because I hold my feelings in a bit everything seems over the top to me.
Bev
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Thanks Ruskie.....I know it's available that way, but I daren't use too much of my family's monthly quota. (It's used for business).
Reading the comments on here won't spoil it for me.....I'll make my own decisions about it once I see it. ;D
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It was nice, but in my opinion as I don't know if she is a very emotional person or not or because she is an actress and just Acts, it put me off a bit.
I suppose because I hold my feelings in a bit everything some of these seem over the top tome.
Bev
Agree Bev. She seemed to have so much guilt for what her ggggrandfather did in Taranaki. They did not go into much detail about the invasion nor the role James Way played in it. It was the 1800s. It was a different world, and I'm not what can be gained from retrospectively apologising for the actions of our ancestors. I think perhaps this makes her (us) feel better about it. The old chap, ggrandson of one of the Maori, said he did not tell her the story to make her feel bad, just that it was 'history'.
I'm afraid I 'fast forwarded' when she sang the song. :P I found it a bit mawkish.
Dee, you've got to get that TV sorted out. You need a refund or a replacement before next Tuesday. :)
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Bought the TV locally, but been told we need to take it to Wollongong to have it repaired.(77km).
With grandchildren at school and pre-school, and D I L involved in business, we have to plan.
I'd much rather have a replacement! >:(
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Dee, I think under Australian Consumer Law you are entitled to a refund or replacement. Hopefully you will find the relevant information here:
http://www.consumerlaw.gov.au/content/Content.aspx?doc=consumers_ACL.htm
I think it is unreasonable for a retailer to expect you to take it 77km to have it repaired. I believer that retailers sometimes try this tack but they are not able to legally do so. They sold it to you. It is not fit for purpose. You would reasonably expect a TV to last longer than 4 months especially as it is solely used by you who have taken care with it.
Do you still have the receipt? I think if you go back to where you purchased it, with receipt. TV and print out of appropriate page from the above website if you can find it, they will feel more inclined to give you a refund or replacement.
You've got to be a bit pushy. Good luck! ;D
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Thanks Ruskie.
Yes, I have all the paper work.
Meanwhile I'll just follow this thread. :D
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I missed both episodes due to meetings and do not know how to record on my TV.
Will need to read ---- oh no forgive me THE MANUAL
Have read great reviews re Andrew Denton's episode.
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Spices, you can watch the full episodes here:
http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/
(scroll down the page and click on the WDYTYA graphic. The Andrew Denton episode is just below the Rebecca Gibney one :))
As already mentioned, the programmes are only viewable for a certain time. The Andrew Denton episode expires on the 22nd July so you need to watch it within the next few days. :)
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Well the series is half over - I enjoyed Jackie Weaver's look into her father's family. She gave her opinions on things as she saw them and then was happy to correct them when proved otherwise. I do like that expression 'greatly loved' which the sisters applied to her grandmother.
Then when she went into the paternal side she was disappointed and I liked her remark at the end when she said that she didn't wish to hurt the Onions family, but she was glad she was a Weaver!
The only thing I couldn't understand was why they had to go to the prison and sit her there whilst they were telling her about the deeds of her grandfather. A bit of showmanship which really wasn't needed as they had a very good subject and didn't need to embellish that part at all.
What a lovely lady!
Bev
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One really feels guilty for not giving my opinion on the shows.I watch them all-by myself as hubby is not into "family stuff"
I agree with what was said about Andrew Denton Has anyone watched his show Randling. very off beat funny
Rebecca's stint was acceptable especially as her ancestor fought the maoris and she, representing him came back and did that ceremony-a very big thing for New Zealand
Love all the TV channels but there is not enough hours to watch all I wish to see as I must leave time for family stuff cheers gmar
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Still waiting for my television here to be repaired or something, but a kind friend is recording them for me to watch on my return home in a few months time. I guess I'll have something to look forward to during the television "silly season".
Dee :)
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Just seen this thread!!
- thoroughly enjoyed the Andrew Denton episode, the Rebecca Gibney episode and this weeks with Jackie Weaver - a good series so far. I actually think it is better than last lot.
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Just finished watching Jackie Weaver's episode and enjoyed it a lot. She teared up a couple of times but I think understandable as it was close relatives - her father and grandmother. Not overly sentimental although due to the subject matter it could have gone that way.
I know it was probably impossible to find out conclusively, but I would have been interested in a bit more delving into what the afflictions of Grace and her mother might have been, though the sisters did hint at it later. The chap they spoke did not give enough detail. I thought it a little non p/c that the three elderly sisters said Grace was 'retarded'. I think Jackie was a little taken aback. Still, that would have been the terminology the old ladies knew and used.
Enjoyed this programme and Jackie seemed very nice.
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A bit late, but ...
Richard Roxburgh. What did everyone think?
I was not sure who he was as the name did not sound familiar. I recognized his face but don't recall ever seeing anything he was in. Different topic for an Australian programme (though it has been covered in the American and UK series) - he seemed fairly grounded and realistic and was not overly apologetic or tearful. Not a particularly memorable episode though it did keep my attention.
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I believe he was in Rake though I didn't watch the programme.
It was quite interesting - specially as he had no idea of his Caribbean past.
But it did annoy me that he put today's thinking about slavery onto his gGGgrandfather - saying how appalled he must have been to arrive there and find slaves - then it turned out this particular man was a big slave owner. I don't think you can put today's thinking onto people from the past. Interesting about the missionary being on the other side of the fence - I wonder to what extent - to being good and godly slaves or really against the whole system.
I didn't like this one as much as the former three - like you by the sound of things..
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I agree with Ruskie - not a particularly stirring episode. In my opinion it was a bit bland. The only thing is I am pleased that he didn't go 'all apologetic' for his ancestors and relegated them to where they belong - in the past - as he wasn't responsible for their way of life.
I feel a bit hypocritical after going on about others crying etc. or over the top when they hear of their relatives crimes as when it finished I didn't have any reaction to this one at all
Bev
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I feel the same way Bev.
He was, I think, 'disappointed' to learn about his ancestors rather than feeling responsible for them or feeling like he should apologise for them, which I did find refreshing.
I did enjoy the programme, but having left it a few days before posting on here I'd actually forgotten a lot of it, hence my minimal comments. :)
Unsure how I feel about Richard Roxburgh - he seemed to take himself fairly seriously ... :-\
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I agree,
In his television series he always plays the devil may care lawyer character and I suppose I thought that was what we would get!
Bev
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I agree,
In his television series he always plays the devil may care lawyer character and I suppose I thought that was what we would get!
Bev
Makes sense. :)
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Have really enjoyed this evening's episode with Amanda Keller. I liked her reactions to various things she found out.
Very interesting! :) (and I'm so envious of all the help she received from one end of the country to the other.)
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Yes I think she came across well. Interesting family too.
I was expecting her to be flown to Scotland at one stage. I think they may be cost cutting as most of this series the celebrities stay in the country. Next weeks is likely too as well I imagine. In earlier series nearly every one went tripping off to find out information they could have found online. ;D
This was another of those episodes that I would have liked them to continue further back - I was left a bit wanting for some reason. Maybe an hour just isn't long enough.
Didn't Tassie look wonderful - even Sarah Island. ;D
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It surely did . . . :)
the Sarah Island bit was very interesting as, in all my reading, it was New castle, Port Arthur and Norfolk Island I'd read about as being the places of ultimate punishment for recidivists. Yet I did know about Sarah Island from that great book (whose name will come to me when I stop trying to remember it - if you see what I mean)
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I had not heard of Sarah Island I'm ashamed to admit. :-[
I'm having a hard time locating it on google maps - I can see Macquarie Harbour Historical Site.
Looking again, I think a normal map gives more detail ... OK found it. It looks quite close to the mainland - swimmable distance I would imagine ;D - I thought I saw a shore line last night. Mind you I don't think there would have been anywhere to go if a prisoner had reached the mainland. ;D
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Hi,
I am ashamed to admit that I have forgotten a bit of Amanda's WDYTYA spot, but from what I can remember it was good.
The cruelty of the warders to these convicts who weren't all bad was really upsetting. but I think her particular relative was 'one of the bad ones' in that he seemed to be forever defying everyone and then to attack his wife at the end was enough for Amanda. Though she did acknowledge that she wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him.
In the other instance, to find someone who came to do well, but didn't make it and left the wife destitute - and how she worked for the children - was uplifting for her particularly when she found out the children were all reunited. The outcome left her feeling a bit happy after finding out things from the historical society about them.
Again, she wasn't responsible for these people, but admired their tenacity and could make a joke of her feelings during the episode.
All in all, a good one.
Bev
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This is a youtube link for the whole of Jackie Weaver's episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2UktX7fN2Y As a non-Australian, I don't think I have come across Jackie as an actress but I thought her WDYTYA was really fascinating (although I too would have liked to know more about the 'affliction' that Gracie had)
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And for Richard Roxburgh's episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEJhdK886lE
Amanda Keller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEJhdK886lE
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Great links Spidermonkey. I am wondering of it might be worth posting those on the Common Room (or even on the recent UK WDYTYA thread :-\) as quite a lot of people are interested in the Australian WDYTYAs. :)
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I wonder whether the mods could make a sticky showing youtube links for full episodes - that way no one needs to use the streaming services that are not necessarily official
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I wonder whether the mods could make a sticky showing youtube links for full episodes - that way no one needs to use the streaming services that are not necessarily official
I think that is an excellent idea. :)
I notice on the WDYTYA UK thread they were talking about the Adam Hills episode so I'm sure there will me many people who'd enjoy any available Australian episodes.
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I know its been a week since the Amanda Keller episode (which I DID enjoy), but can somebody enlighten me as to the link between the convict John Edwards of the "Albion", and the ancestor John Edwards who married Charlotte Woolf?
The only link that was mentioned was convict John Edwards' mother was possibly Maria, and ancestor John Edwards' daughter was Maria. Now, for us RootsChatters, that is not a very solid link, especially when ancestor John Edwards' wife, Charlotte Woolf, had a sister Maria.
I must admit that the convict John Edwards "made the show".
I put a similar message on the WDYTYA webpage and 11 people "agree" with me and 5 people "disagree". There have been no comments made by the producers from the show.
Les
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I completely missed the lack of link there - thought they were one and the same - . . . . :-[ :-[ :-[
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I completely missed the lack of link there - thought they were one and the same - . . . . :-[ :-[ :-[
Yes, I did too. :-\
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Yes, I realise they probably can't show every link because it could make a boring show, but normally when I watch a show, the links sort of fall into place. This link just didn't.
I'm glad I'm wasn't the only one that thought that way ???
Les
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But weren't they the same person?? ???
I thought they were.
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But weren't they the same person?? ???
I thought they were.
Well, in the show, they said there were 20(?) John Edward convicts, and they picked the first on the list, but never gave the actual link as to why. Just for interest, I would like to know what the "missing link" was? I just hope they didn't pick the one who sounded most interesting, which this John Edward turned out to be.
Les
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I will have to try and see that Adam Hills episode. When we were on holiday in Australia we used to watch him hosting 'Spicks and Specks'. It was a great programme. I don't know why we didn't get it in the UK
Chris
Here are youtube links for some of the episodes of the current Aus series:
Jackie Weaver's episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2UktX7fN2Y
Richard Roxburgh's episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEJhdK886lE
Amanda Keller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEJhdK886lE
And three episdoes of the US series can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTpbUV93zKlcsbQtBf-EHbw
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Righto - footballer Adam Goodes:
Um, I was a bit underwhelmed with this episode I'm afraid. Some interesting finds related to his ancestors but I think maybe the programme concentrated too much on just a couple of generations. :-\
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Adam Goodes:
Quiety spoken man and he had a complicated history to work out with the names of the white people he had to find as well as his black ancestors, but I hope he can now be at peace having been welcomed back to his spiritual world which is what he wanted.
Bev
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I enjoyed it but found his quiet reaction very different from some of the more demonstrative people who have been on.
- I think he was lucky to be able to trace back even as far as he has given the general lack of written records for many Aboriginals.
Very different story wasn't it. He could have been very angry at the treatment of his women ancestors - but it wouldn't have changed anything so probably best the way he dealt with it. :-\
Yes BevL I liked the welcome back to his people - thought thatvery moving.
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Only one left to go now and this series is over.
Naturally being a Sandgroper I took particular interest in this one but perhaps they are saving money as Lisa didn't move out of Western Australia and it only went to the great grandfather and grandfather her father didn't know, with both having lived in WA.
I do admit that there was the crime of murder which could have been over in a short time as it turns out her g grandfather was only charged as an accessory to murder - which I know is bad but not as the little bit of drama over it implied.
The grandfather was found to have mental problems before the war and he left his wife and 3 children to fend for themselves. Again as it is in the past the woment who were left behind had a hard job trying to keep their children fed and clothed, but in the end I am happy that her grandmother found a wonderful gentleman who looked after Lisa's father and his other kin as his own.
I am sorry when it finished I thought to myself - is that all and what about her mother?
Bev
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Once again I agree with you Bev. :)
Unfortunately I missed the first 20 minutes and haven't yet had a chance to catch up, but from what I did see I thought it was OK but not memorable. I wondered exactly the same thing about the budget for this series - no one seems to be travelling very far do they? ;)
Seeing the ad for this episode I thought "ho hum, another actor turning on the water works for the cameras," but I think it was understandable that she was emotional given the relationship she had with them.
WDYTYA - always a good way to spend an hour, but I think this was a little weak.
PS. Has anyone managed to see any of the current UK series of WDYTYA yet?
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Agree Bev !
- also wondered about about her mother's family - would have liked to have gone further with this one.
Enjoyed what we did see though.
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Am a bit annoyed.
For some reason the media have published articles about Paul McDermott's discoveries on his WDYTYA journey, giving the secrets away before the programme airs tomorrow night. >:(
Presumably this is to get the viewing numbers up for the last episode in the series.
Once again all of the action takes place in one locality. I was sure he would be off to Ireland and it seems he thought so too, but it was not to be - I would say definitely a budget cut for this series, though not that that is necessarily a bad thing. I thought that often when a celeb was flown off to distant lands it was unnecessary as the information they obtained was available online anyway.
Bit of a shame I know what happens now ... Advise others not to read the article doing the rounds at the moment.
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I will try to stay away from any articles regarding Paul McDermott, but I agree with you that they seem to be cutting costs and to me, it is not the same when they do that. Either the programmers or the subjects decided - or were told - to concentrate on one or two particular relatives and they weren't to ask anything about their other relatives.
From memory, they did take Andrew Denton away but that is all I think, when really most of our forebears came from other countries and even if it is online, there is somehow always someone who can tell you something about your ancestors which is what the series is - or was - all about.
Bev
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Oh yes, I forgot that Andrew Denton flew off to Poland etc. :)
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I must admit that I didn't know what to expect with Paul McDermott but was pleasantly surprised.
He immediately got 1 point from me when after finding out some things from one side of the family he then wanted to find out a bit about the other side! He was quick on the uptake and laughed at some of the antics from his ancestors, but was pleased that Patrick made sure he didn't lose the house for his mother and is very family orientated by the sound of it himself.
All in all, a very good program to finish off the series.
Bev
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I was not a fan of Paul McDermott but after seeing this programme I have changed my opinion. I thought he came across very well, and I liked the comments he made regarding all of the discoveries about his ancestors, which I think were appropriate to the situation in every instance.
A fairly limited coverage of his family tree, and I would have loved to have learned more about earlier generations of both sides of his ancestry (but with Irish research being so difficult I am not surprised they either did not find anything or did not bother looking).
I am intrigued about how in one year Mary had managed to obtain £20 to purchase a house. I know they said they did not know where the money came from ...
In general, a really interesting programme. :)
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I thought he came across very well, and I liked the comments he made regarding all of the discoveries about his ancestors, which I think were appropriate to the situation in every instance.
A fairly limited coverage of his family tree, and I would have loved to have learned more about earlier generations of both sides of his ancestry (but with Irish research being so difficult I am not surprised they either did not find anything or did not bother looking).
Agree Ruskie - I also wanted to know a bit more furth back - but it was a good programme.
I thought it was the last - but after it finished they went on to say Adam Hills will be on next week so . . . .?? What's going on?
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I think they surmised that the errant husband who had deserted them sent the money with which they purchased the house and so he should if it was him.
I did get a bit confused when they were doing his mother's line with all the Aunts etc. but think I finally worked it out.
Adam Hills WDYTYA is a repeat, but a good one.
Bev
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I got confused too Bev, but I watched it again this morning on the SBS site, because I missed the beginning of the programme last night and thought that the reason I was having trouble following it was because I missed something vital at the beginning. Turns out that I didn't but worth watching again anyway.
Apparently since the programme was made the family purchased a headstone for Kathleen's grave.
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/paul-mcdermott-uncovers-family-secret-on-sbs-series-who-do-you-think-you-are/story-e6frfmyi-1227035008195
I also thought about Paul mentioning that Patrick McDermott's grave was imposing even though they were not a wealthy family - presumably they were Catholics(?) and I believe they do (or did) like to make a show of the funeral and memorial even if they could not really afford it, so maybe they scrimped and saved and went without to be able to afford the huge stone. I noticed many others also buried in the plot so it is also possible that later generations erected the memorial.
Paul McDermott seems like a very nice man. :)
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Hi Ruskie,
I am glad they put a headstone of Katherine's grave it was fitting after all he had learned about her. Also he mentioned that the graves of Katherine and the McDermott's weren't much apart at the cemetery and I was impressed on his quick grip of the situations he was shown.
If I had to vote on how I enjoyed this series I think I would place him 2nd after Andrew Denton.
Bev
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Agree Bev. Andrew Denton #1, and Paul McDermott #2. :)
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Thought Rebecca Gibney episode was pretty good too. ;)