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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: bb10 on Wednesday 25 June 14 16:33 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find record of my father's death. Frederick James Brown, last heard of in 1953/4 in the Rockhampton area when we were informed of him being injured in a flood. Enquiries at the time brought no response. He was born in England in 1917, moved to Australia in 1949. Lived briefly in Lagoon Pocket, then Monkland, Gympie until 1953. May have died in 1953 - or of course after that. I would be very grateful for any help.
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Hi and welcome do you know what his occupation was and did he marry again there are several Frederick James Browns in the Electoral rolls
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Hi and welcome from me too. Just had a look on Australian Cemeteries Index, but unfortunately no likely burial listed.
http://austcemindex.com/index.php
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These links might be of some use for you. Good luck :)
QLD bmd
https://www.qld.gov.au/law/births-deaths-marriages-and-divorces/family-history-research/
Trove newspapers
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper
Link for cemeteries in and around Rockhampton
http://www.rockhamptonregion.qld.gov.au/Your_Community/CemeteriesCrematoriums
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Thank you Rosie17 and Jool. Regret I have no other information at present - hence my difficulty. I am grateful for the attempts to help and hope that something may appear.
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Thank you for links, Giblet. Have searched without success but will keep note of links for future use just in case.
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Hi was your Frederick James Brown born in Surrey, if so there are digital copies of him immigration records on the Australia Archives site\
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/NameSearch/Interface/ItemsListing.aspx
This chap has a wife and 3 children, have not listed names as could be living.If it is him maybe you could search for wife and children, and find him
Cass
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I can see by the immigration records his wife and family arrived back in the U K 1952
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I am amazed by the number of helpful replies. There are some very helpful people out there. In response to Cass T and Rosie 17 - thank you for the hard work. Yes, that is the family (I am one of them). The sad thing is that we heard no further news after hearing that Father had been injured. It would be great to put that mystery to rest. As I am currently in England I am finding it difficult to negotiate the Australian records so am even more grateful for the help.
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I found this dated 1975 there fore i assume he was still alive then.
National archives Australia
Brown, Frederick James [British - born 1917]
Contents date range
1975 - 1975
Location Brisbane
You can request a copy online.
Not sure if the link will work
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=9105669&isAv=N
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Hi I have had a look at the QLD BDM Index
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=deaths
and there is a Death
1970 C4831 Frederick James Brown parents Robert Brown Annie Fiddis
could this be him? If not if you know his parents Christian names you could have a search and might be lucky
Cass
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Thank you Cass. This is not the one as parent's names differ (actually John(Jack) and Eliza) Tried myself but nothing came up although note that records stop at 1964. Grateful for the try!
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Thank you Giblet. I have ordered a copy in case this is the one but will keep searching (and hoping) for more info.
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Thank you Cass. This is not the one as parent's names differ (actually John(Jack) and Eliza) Tried myself but nothing came up although note that records stop at 1964. Grateful for the try!
Death records are to 1984 in Qld
https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/BirIndexQry.m
Your father has occupation farm hand on his immigration file, which you possibly have attached to your private online tree
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=5049203
but was he still working as a farm labourer when you returned to the UK?
He was a painter at one stage prior to emigration.
A possibility :-\
Australian Electoral Roll
1954 Qld Capricornia/Eidsvold
BROWN Frederick James 110 Murray Street, Rockhampton Painter
1963 Qld Wide Bay/Bundaberg
BROWN Frederick Brown 118 George Street, Bundaberg Painter
1968 Qld Wide Bay/Woongarra
BROWN Frederick Brown 2 Marshall Street Burnett Heads No occupation
No burial record at Bundaberg Lawn or General Cemeteries.
http://bundaberg.qld.gov.au/services/cemeteries/bundaberg/search?query=brown
Cheers
Cando
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Keep in mind that if he died in Queensland away from family the informant may not have known his parent's names, so may not show up in indexes or may be incorrect or the informant's best 'guess'.
(Promising looking finds Cando)
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Thank you Cando. This looks very promising. Occupation of painter could be correct due to earlier employment. I also take your point about possible lack of info by any informant - I had taken that into account in searches. The electoral roll info is intriguing and I would like to investigate further. I am currently unable to access Australian info from England. Is there a means of sending me a copy? Again so many thanks for your interest and help.
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All electoral roll information is on Ancestry.com There is no further information on the electoral roll listings.
Where one lives in the world today should not hamper you ability to search for information ie if the information is online. I live in a remote part of Aus and my only access to information is online. I don't live anywhere near a library or family resource center.
Your local library in the UK may have the Ancestry Library edition available for you to use.
Have you browsed the Australian Resources and Offers Board - each state is listed individually.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=399.0
Cando
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Thank you Cando
That link gives many sources so will work my way through them. I am very grateful for your help and the help of others (I am learning all the time!!)
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Hi,
The Electoral Rolls on Ancestry are Commonwealth Rolls the Queensland State Electoral Rolls can be found at the Queensland State Archives and these rolls were annotated, that is when an enrolled person changed address, died, did not vote etc the rolls were often annotated accordingly.
If your Frederick can be positively identified as being on a State Roll then just keep checking the following rolls until a death annotation might be found. I have had some great successes using these rolls.
If you want to contact the Queensland State Archives with a query use the following address.
http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/Runcorn/Pages/Enquiries.aspx
Gerry
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I am willing to go to the State Archives to see if Fred is listed on the State rolls. (I find the districts/divisions confusing and they do change, so any guidance in where to look location wise would be most welcome ;))
Agree with Gerry that annotations can be very useful too.
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The rolls on ancestry are also show the annotations. Often shown on supplementary rolls.
Cando