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Title: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: Frank2 on Friday 20 June 14 06:43 BST (UK)
Hi everyone. I've been at a brick wall for a long time with my g-g-grandmother Catherine Carey. She was born in England in about 1875, and she came to the US around 1886-1889 from what I've gathered. I have her marriage record in the US (to Frederick Bradbury of Manchester, England) but I can't find a death record, and I can't determine if any of the England birth records or censuses on Ancestry are hers because I have no idea what her parents' names were or where specifically she was from in England.

Any advice would be much appreciated.  :)

Frank
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: lizdb on Friday 20 June 14 07:52 BST (UK)
As she was only a child when emigrating, I would think your first move would be to see if you can find her on any passenger lists or immigration records, or 1891 US census to see who she is with.
Does her marriage cert give fathers name?, sorry I am not familiar with US certs.
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: Frank2 on Friday 20 June 14 08:15 BST (UK)
As she was only a child when emigrating, I would think your first move would be to see if you can find her on any passenger lists or immigration records, or 1891 US census to see who she is with.
Does her marriage cert give fathers name?, sorry I am not familiar with US certs.
Well, the US certificates vary a lot between states and the time the event occurred, etc. Unfortunately hers does not give any birth or parental info besides the year. And the 1890 US census was mostly destroyed, unfortunately, so I can't check there. She was married by the 1900 census, which is the earliest record I have of her besides the marriage cert (1899).

I will have a look at immigration records though. I can't remember if I've searched them or not, but it can't hurt. Thank you for your suggestions.
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: jan57 on Friday 20 June 14 08:20 BST (UK)
Where was  she on the 1900  census  ?
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: sgf28 on Friday 20 June 14 08:25 BST (UK)
Hopefully I am looking at the right Catherine :-\

1900 US Census, living in Jefferson Kentucky:
Katharine Bradbury
Dob:    Apr 1875
Birthplace: Illinois
Parents were both born England

Married to    Fred Bradbury for one year, immigration date for Fred given as 1866.
Marriage Year:    1899

1910 and 1920 US Census says she was born England though :-\
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: sgf28 on Friday 20 June 14 08:27 BST (UK)
Marriage:
Katharine Carey
Dob: abt 1873

Marriage Date:    3 Apr 1899
Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA

Spouse: Frederick Bradbury
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: Frank2 on Friday 20 June 14 08:37 BST (UK)
That info is all correct, sgf28. I have four censuses (1900, 1905 New York, 1910, and 1920) and the marriage record, and that's it. I haven't found anything in the immigration records. She and Frederick seem to have moved around quite a bit.
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: jan57 on Friday 20 June 14 09:07 BST (UK)
the 1930  census has Frederic(k)   back in Kentucky  and states he's  a  widower   and  with  son Edward    This census  has  Fred  born 1878   immigration   year 1888,  parents born  England  and  his  occupation Chemist 
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: jan57 on Friday 20 June 14 09:17 BST (UK)
  A   possible    death 


New York, New York, Death Index, 1862-1948
about Catherine Bradbury




Name:
Catherine Bradbury

Birth Year:
abt 1875

Age:
50

Death Date:
25 Mar 1925

Death Place:
Bronx, New York, USA

Certificate Number:
2230

Purchase Certificate
 
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: Frank2 on Friday 20 June 14 09:22 BST (UK)
the 1930  census has Frederic(k)   back in Kentucky  and states he's  a  widower   and  with  son Edward    This census  has  Fred  born 1878   immigration   year 1888,  parents born  England  and  his  occupation Chemist
Yes, that's correct. I have been fortunate that I've been able to make some headway with Frederick's parents and whatnot, since I knew from a family member that he was born in Manchester. He actually arrived in the US somewhere between 1866 and 1871, I believe, since his sister was born in Illinois around 1871. Catherine's parents and specific birth location have proven to be pretty elusive, however.
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: Frank2 on Friday 20 June 14 09:27 BST (UK)
  A   possible    death 


New York, New York, Death Index, 1862-1948
about Catherine Bradbury




Name:
Catherine Bradbury

Birth Year:
abt 1875

Age:
50

Death Date:
25 Mar 1925

Death Place:
Bronx, New York, USA

Certificate Number:
2230

Purchase Certificate
Wow, thank you for finding that. I think that's probably her. It makes sense she'd have been there because her daughter Irene was living in the Bronx with her husband and daughter (my grandmother) as well.
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: jan57 on Friday 20 June 14 09:39 BST (UK)
Maybe  getting her  death   cert   will  show  who  her  parents were ?  I noticed  on Edwards   death  details in 1941   it   gives   the  parents names
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: Frank2 on Friday 20 June 14 09:47 BST (UK)
Maybe  getting her  death   cert   will  show  who  her  parents were ?  I noticed  on Edwards   death  details in 1941   it   gives   the  parents names
I hope so. Some do and some don't, so I'm going to try to find out if it will show any new info before I spend the money.
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: Frank2 on Tuesday 24 June 14 00:20 BST (UK)
Just an update, I MAY have found her birth record. The name and date of April 1875 matches, however I can't be sure since I don't have parents' names or a specific location. The location on the record is Wolverhampton, Staffordshire. There are also Christening records for her, and parents listed are Thomas Carey and Anna Evans.

Really hoping this is a match but I won't know for sure until I can get at least one parents' name on her death record, though I'm also trying to find an obituary now that I have a death date, but no luck so far.
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: shellyesq on Tuesday 24 June 14 14:29 BST (UK)
You could get a free copy of the death certificate through the Family History Library photoduplication services - https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: Frank2 on Thursday 26 June 14 04:29 BST (UK)
You could get a free copy of the death certificate through the Family History Library photoduplication services - https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Photoduplication_Services
Thank you! I didn't know that even existed. Much appreciated. :)
Title: Re: Catherine Carey b. 1875 in England
Post by: Frank2 on Sunday 31 August 14 03:22 BST (UK)
Just wanted to update that I finally acquired a copy of her death cert. It lists her parents as John Carey and Hannah Smith, both born in Ireland, with her being born in England.