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Trying to trace Elizabeth Sarah Humphreys or Humphries. Possibly born Brighton c1833. Baptised St Nicholas 1833. If the same mother of John Humphries born Brighton 1857. No later trace found so far. She may have had a brother, George John Humphreys b Brighton 1829, who seems to have gone to Hackney in East London and married Catharine Helen Allardice in1858. (d1867) Any information on Elizabeth Sarah sought as have been un-able to find a marriage or death for her. Any assistance appreciated.
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Here is a possible baptism for her in 1833. Parents George Humphreys and Elizabeth.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NDCS-Y9Q
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Thank You; We did have that. It is later on we are trying to trace her.
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Who were the witnesses on John bn 1857 marriage - do you have him on census prior to his marriage
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Have you looked at two potential marriages in Southwark?
The first in 1864 has possible grooms Thomas Humphries or Christian Werner.
If she married Thomas then her name would have remained the same and the 1878 marriage might also be her. This time to John Young or John James Oxenham.
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Have you looked at two potential marriages in Southwark?
The first in 1864 has possible grooms Thomas Humphries or Christian Werner.
If she married Thomas then her name would have remained the same and the 1878 marriage might also be her. This time to John Young or John James Oxenham.
The 1864 marriage her father is given as James - occupation Fruiterer -she married Thomas Humphries
The 1878 marriage she was age 19 also father James
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Wrong people I'afraid but thank you; We do have all details of John L Humphries b1857, my wife's Gt grandfather. We have him in Ringmer in 1871 (Living with a family called Potter which we know is correct from other information) but cannot find him (or her) in 1861. Apparently some census returns for Brighton missing? I have been through all the people you both mention; Our Elizabeth Sarah's father was George and mother Elizabeth. I think we have the right parents here.
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You are right there are some census missing for 1861 Brighton -
601 - The Palace Brighton - Missing entirely.
What was the address on John Laings birth certificate
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Sorry I haven't got back sooner. The J L Humphries birth address was 24 Oriental Place Brighton. This was a 'rooming house' let off in suites of rooms run by a Mr Webster. Presumably rented for the purpose. No further connection there at all as far as found to date. Thank you, regards, TCS.
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Further to above; Elizabeth Sarah may have had a brother George John b1829. He seems to have gone to Hackney and married Catharine Helen Allardce from Scotland. (Dec qr 1858) She died young, 1867 aged 35, but can't find a confirmed death for him as all seem to be the wrong age.
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Just got the 1858 marriage cert for George John Humphreys who we believe to be Elizabeth Sarah's brother. Gives father, George Humphreys as Naval Officer, deceased. Found a Lt George Humphreys RN employed in the coastguard service who died in 1834 at Milton next Sittingbourne Kent.
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Have you seen the actual parish register entry for Elizabeth Sarah and possible siblings baptisms they probably give George's occupation.
Rosie
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Lieut. George Humphreys was nominated to the Coastguard on 18 April 1831 from the Coast Blockade Service, with a posting to Milton CGS (ADM 175/6 pdf 55).
If you believe he is your ancestor it would be worth ordering his Lieutenant's Passing Certificate from the National Archives, Cat.Ref: ADM 107/44 pages 193-194, which includes details of his birth, and ADM 6/110 page 104. He passed his Lieut's Board in 1812, but was not appointed until 1815.
Martin
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Rosie, Martin; Thank you for your postings. Haven't been on the site for a while but someone has told me that this is the wrong George Humphreys. So research continues. Regards & thanks, TCS.
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PS: I am going to try to see the original baptisms at Lewes some time. Might get a cross reference there. TCS.
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New thread, hopefully to be merged
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=865578.0