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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: ybbrowne on Wednesday 18 June 14 22:23 BST (UK)
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Hi, I wonder could anyone confirm what regiment this uniform is from and possible a year? I have been told it may be the 5th Royal Irish lancers but there is no badges.. Also where would I find information on my great uncle if indeed he was in the 5th Royal Irish Lancers
Any help would be great.... Thank you in advance Yvonne .
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Good evening,
At first glance, being in black and white, I would say no. The 5th had red collar and cuffs on that uniform, circa 1890-1910. Difficult to say what the colour is on the picture but they also wore white crossbelts.
John915
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I'm not sure, John!
See: http://www.royalirishlancers.co.uk/uniforms.htm
About half way down are colour drawings of uniforms c1905/6.
Yvonne, see also the Historical Research page on that site.
And . . . Welcome to RootsChat! ;D
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Hello, thank you for your reply. He has spurs on his shoes what would that indicate do you know?
Regards
Ybb
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Good evening,
In this case it's because he is a cavalryman. All the lancers in that era wore the same style of uniform but in different colour combinations.
I have found some pics since showing the 5th without the crossbelt so he could be one.
John915
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Hi, I wonder could anyone confirm what regiment this uniform is from and possible a year? I have been told it may be the 5th Royal Irish lancers but there is no badges.. Also where would I find information on my great uncle if indeed he was in the 5th Royal Irish Lancers
Any help would be great.... Thank you in advance Yvonne .
Could well be 5th Lancers ... there is a medal card for Willaim Sims (indexed under Simms with note about correct name) He was awarded 1914 Star so may well have been in the regiment some time ... my grandfather was in the 5th Lancers form 1910 and I have more information .... R
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hi,,wen and where was he born ?
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hi,,wen and where was he born ?
Are you asking me about my grandfather William Samuel Altoft Johnson b 1889 York
or about William Sims ?
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William
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William
Why do you ask?
I've followed his career in the 5th including the events at which the band performed - and looked in detail at the First Battle of Ypres to identify where he was wounded
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Hi Yvonne, I also had a great uncle in the 5th in 1911 and this is a photo of him c. 1919. I am not sure if the uniforms are similar. I cannot locate his service records as it appears they were destroyed during the blitz in WW2. Have you had any luck researching any information? Does anyone know where the soldiers would have gone when they were injured? I know Patrick had suffered temporary blindness from mustard gas, and I am trying to see if there are any hospital records. Would they have been returned to England or to their home country?
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Hi Sharon and welcome
As a Regular he may have served after 1920 - in which case his service record would still be with the MOD. Even if you believe he has a civilian job after WW1 he may have been in Army Reserve, and was only discharged after his time in the AR. If you know his number it should be straight forward to discover when he enlisted. This link will tell you where the 5th Lancers were serving during WW1 - http://www.1914-1918.net/lancers.htm Also, http://www.1914-1918.net/2cavdiv.htm And their war diary is here - http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7351482
The regimental museum may also have something. They were disbanded in July 1921 following partition, but were reformed in April 1922 and merged with 16th Lancers as 16th/5th Lancers. They lost their precedence after being disbanded 1799 to 1858. Otherwise the new regiment would have been 5th/16th Lancers.
GB and Ireland were one country in WW1 so there was only one army and one system of treating the wounded - http://www.1914-1918.net/wounded.htm I do not know if hospital records exist. Someone on the Great War Forum will know. If you do not know when he was wounded you will have to wade through the archives of his local newspapers. Lists of the wounded were usually published.
Ken
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Spurs on his shoes and holding a riding crop, bit of a give away.
Of course, some were always attached to cavalry regiments just to throw you off the scent!