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Hi there
Just wondering if anyone has done any research on William Edwin Mothersole DOB 1832?
I am just starting out seriously looking in to my family tree and would appreciate any help with this:)
Thanks ;D ;D
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Do you know where he was born or anything else about him, please?
Could he have been born in Suffolk?
Bev
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Welcome to Rootschat.
Even if there is no-one who has actually researched him, if you give us a bit more information I'm sure that people on here will be able to help you find out about him. Just looking quickly online there are lots of different transcriptions of the name ie Hothenale and Mathersole so you need to be aware of this when looking for him.
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Thank you already:) I think he is from Suffolk, DOB is 1832, That's at least where he had his child Alfred Mothersole my G Grandfather in 1881.
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Birth, June qtr 1881
Berkhampstead district vol 3a, page 519
Mothersole, Alfred
1881 census. Class: RG11; Piece: 1446; Folio: 34; Page: 34
Pollen End, Berkhampstead, Hertfordshire
Mothersole, William Head M 48 Bricklayer
Mothersole, Caroline Wife F 47
Mothersole, George Son M 16 Bricklayer's Labourer
Mothersole, Walter Son M 14 Scholar
Mothersole, Arthur Son M 8 Scholar
Mothersole, Etty Daughter F 5 Scholar
Mothersole, <Baby> Son M 4 days
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Welcome from me too.
I agree with KGarrad that the Berkhamsted family looks interesting, but no obvious Suffolk connection:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3P1-CCV
shows they were all born locally ???
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Ah - on the other hand if you go back to 1871, both William and Caroline do claim a Suffolk birthplace:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VF6V-CPC
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1871 census: Class: RG10; Piece: 1389; Folio: 39; Page: 33
Potten End, Berkhampstead, Hertfordshire
Mothersole, William Head M 39 Bricklayer Journeyman b Levermere, Suffolk
Mothersole, Caroline Wife F 38 b Timworth, Suffolk
Mothersole, Henry Son M 18 Bricklayer Journeyman b Potten End
Mothersole, Esther Daughter F 15 b Potten End
Mothersole, Kate Daughter F 12 b Potten End
Mothersole, William Son M 10 b Potten End
Mothersole, Anne Daughter F 8 b Potten End
Mothersole, George Son M 6 b Potten End
Mothersole, Walter Son M 4 b Potten End
Mothersole, Elizabeth Daughter F 1 b Potten ENd
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I had alighted on this as a possibility for William's baptism:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKSV-GBY
as William Harvey rather than William Edwin.
BUT William Harvey died in infancy: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JCD4-3Z3
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Possible marriage
Marriages Sep 1853
MOTHERSOLE William Elwen Thingoe 4a 597
PARISH Caroline
Thingoe covers Timworth where Caroline was born.
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Possible marriage
Marriages Sep 1853
MOTHERSOLE William Elwen Thingoe 4a 597
PARISH Caroline
Thingoe covers Timworth where Caroline was born.
Excellent - possible baptism for Caroline in Timworth, 1833:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKS2-B57
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Can't see them in 1861?
So, 1841 census: Class: HO107; Piece: 1036; Book: 13; Folio: 8; Page: 9
Street, Great Livermere, Suffolk
Mothersole, William M 40 Bricklkayer
Mothersole, Susan F 45
Mothersole, Henry M 20
Mothersole, Lucretia F 12
Mothersole, William M 9
Mothersole, Denis M 7 All born in county
and remembering that adult ages on the 1841 census were usually rounded down to a multiple of 5 years!
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Perhaps this then is William's baptism in 1832, mistranscribed as Wothersole:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NY3F-ZBX
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1851 Census: Class: HO107; Piece: 1474; Folio: 322; Page: 4
6 Ellis Street, Chelsea, Middlesex
Mothersole, George Head M 29 Bricklayer b Livermere, Suffolk
Mothersole, William Brother M 17 Bricklayer b Livermere, Suffolk
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1861 transcribed as Methersole
Tayfen Road Bury St Edmunds
William Methersole Husband Married Male 28 Bricklayer Great Livermere, Suffolk
Caroline Methersole Wife Married Female 27 Timworth, Suffolk
Henry Methersole Son - Male 7 Timworth, Suffolk
Esther Methersole Daughter - Female 5 Timworth, Suffolk
Catherine Methersole Daughter - Female 3 Bury St Edmunds
William Methersole Son - Male 1 Bury St Edmunds
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Perhaps they were a little forgetful in 1881 when they all were said to have been born in Berkhamsted!
Here's a baptism for the son William in Bury St Edmunds in 1859:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N5YB-XY4
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William (snr) died as William E Mothersole aged 58, Sep qtr 1890 Berkhampstead.
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Perhaps they were a little forgetful in 1881 when they all were said to have been born in Berkhamsted!
More likely an enumerator error?
Birthplace has been dittoed from the first entry (different family).
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Perhaps they were a little forgetful in 1881 when they all were said to have been born in Berkhamsted!
Here's a baptism for the son William in Bury St Edmunds in 1859:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N5YB-XY4
That's great as it confirms it was the right marriage and ties it all together.
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Hi Everyone,
Thank you so much for all the input. I am learning so much here. I figured William Jnr may have died since he wasn't in the next family listing - I didn't even think that he wouldn't be under the Family listing due to moving out of home!!
I have found out now from a source close to home that my Gx4 Grand parents are Philip Mothersole born in Suffolk Oct 1762, passed away 1825 and his wife is Jane Pye also born in Suffolk Feb 1758, passed away 1813.
Do u you know how I could find out details like their parents and what other children they had? Or would there be no records that far back?
Thank you once again:)
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There are lots and lots of Mothersoles on www.familysearch.org and also a few on www.freereg.org.uk (both free to search).
On familysearch two children come up straight away:
Maria b. 6th April 1796
William b. 11th April 1800
Also check variants as the marriage of Philip and Jane in 1795 is transcribed as Nothersole and Cye :-\