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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Cog on Friday 13 June 14 17:38 BST (UK)
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Hi Everyone
Does anyone know of any future plans for BMD's after 1958 to be released ??
Carol ???
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Released where?
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Ahh sorry Craclyn ....online I meant.
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May be of use to you
Wills and Testamentary Records,National Archives Ireland. found by googling same.
Gives will extracts and other Government references up to fairly recent times.
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For those of us waiting (im)patiently for the 'Enhanced' GRO (Ireland) Indexes to appear on line, it's worth keeping an eye on Claire Santry's blog Irish Genealogy News http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.co.uk/). If you put "Enhanced" into the search box near the top left of the page and sort by date order you'll have a good run down on the progress - rather lack of - this project.
John Grenham - Irish Roots column in the Irish Times also comments; his piece on the progress of uploading records on line is here http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/irish-roots-1.1667147 (http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/irish-roots-1.1667147).
Another good source is Chris Paton's blog 'British GENES' at http://britishgenes.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://britishgenes.blogspot.co.uk/) a search there may also be helpful.
I wrote to the Minister for the Department of Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht, Jimmy Deenihan, back in April, had an acknowledgement saying the matter was being looked into but nothing since...................
H
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Hey :D
thanks for replies , it just seems so frustrating that again Ireland are so far behind the rest of the world with online sources ...its coming up to 60 years ! I realise there would have to be a period where for privacy a cut off period would be put in place ...but 56 years !! I think they have their reasons to hold back on people being able to trace others that may be alive but this wouldnt stop anyone as they are public records , but for people that cannot get to Ireland its massively frustrating . Thanks for the links , and I think I may be getting quite a few people to send emails asking for the same to be released .
Carol
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Carol
If your looking for a birth, marriage or death cert after 1958 you can still order it through the GRO once you have the date!
But they were supposed to be updated before christmas to include mothers maiden name from 1904 to 1927 too but it still hasn't happened!
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Yes Loudam , but was wondering about online for people that cannot get to GRO , also so that references can be found in order to use the online service without having to pay for a search. Its all so far behind isnt it :(
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It really could be so helpful to have post 1958 records available!!
But you can order via fax and post to the GRO without search fee if you have a name and date of birth/death/marriage and they now will email back the certs to you too!
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didnt know that Loudam ...but if we had date of BDM eh ? hope its soon ...
Carol
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May be of use to you
Wills and Testamentary Records,National Archives Ireland. found by googling same.
Gives will extracts and other Government references up to fairly recent times.
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/wills-testamentary-records/
This is the link which refers
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Thankyou Conahay I have used this before and found it very useful in searches. :)
Carol
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Hey :D
thanks for replies , it just seems so frustrating that again Ireland are so far behind the rest of the world with online sources ...its coming up to 60 years ! I realise there would have to be a period where for privacy a cut off period would be put in place ...but 56 years !! I think they have their reasons to hold back on people being able to trace others that may be alive but this wouldnt stop anyone as they are public records , but for people that cannot get to Ireland its massively frustrating . Thanks for the links , and I think I may be getting quite a few people to send emails asking for the same to be released .
Carol
Compared with, for example, Australia?
Quoting from another thread:
May I gently mention that Civil registration for births, deaths and marriages are the responsibilities of each of the states and territories that make up the Federation of the Commonwealth of Australia. And in Australia, the information on BDMs is PRIVATE information, and therefore access to the non historic BDM registrations by members of the general public is restricted. (Unlike say quite recent English BDMs which seem to be readily available to members of the general public)
Our OP notes that George and his three children migrated to Queensland in the 1930s, where he re-married and had a further child. So may I note that in Queensland the BDM restrictions are 100 years for births, 30 years for deaths, 75 years for marriages.
https://www.qld.gov.au/law/births-deaths-marriages-and-divorces/family-history-research/information-and-how-to-access-and-order-records/information-you-can-access/
http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/58341/Certificate-Access-Policy.pdf
Forgot to add: this is a quote from MAJM, a NSW expert!
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There's a great deal of PRIVATE information on the various BDM certificates for each of the different states and territories that form the Federation of the Commonwealth of Australia. For example, my own birth certificate contains detailed information about each of my parents, each of my older siblings, the employer's details for each of my parents, the full names of my both my parents, including former names, full street addresses, names and qualifications of the medico and staff assisting, and a great deal more. Same amount of depth for each and every one of my NSW born ancestors who were born AFTER March 1856. Most of the Australian states and territories have similar depth of info.
This (long standing restricted access policy) means that from a family history perspective, we do not conduct our family history research in the same way that someone researching 20th century families in say England would research.
As an aside, may I mention that the quote that KGarrad has highlighted, comes from a current thread, and he is quoting from my post on that thread, although he has not yet acknowledged my post ::) on that thread ::)
Compared with, for example, Australia?
Quoting from another thread:
May I gently mention that Civil registration for births, deaths and marriages are the responsibilities of each of the states and territories that make up the Federation of the Commonwealth of Australia. And in Australia, the information on BDMs is PRIVATE information, and therefore access to the non historic BDM registrations by members of the general public is restricted. (Unlike say quite recent English BDMs which seem to be readily available to members of the general public)
Our OP notes that George and his three children migrated to Queensland in the 1930s, where he re-married and had a further child. So may I note that in Queensland the BDM restrictions are 100 years for births, 30 years for deaths, 75 years for marriages.
https://www.qld.gov.au/law/births-deaths-marriages-and-divorces/family-history-research/information-and-how-to-access-and-order-records/information-you-can-access/
http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/58341/Certificate-Access-Policy.pdf
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=690010.0
Cheers, JM (NSW centric)
ADD, These restricted access limitations are not unique to the eight jurisdictions that make up Australia .... New Zealand also has restricted access, and I understand that many of the states in the US of A do too.
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For anyone who's missed it look at Claire Santry's Irish Genealogy News http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/major-news-enhanced-gro-indexes-launch.html (http://irish-genealogy-news.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/major-news-enhanced-gro-indexes-launch.html).
H