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Title: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Sunday 01 June 14 19:18 BST (UK)
Hi I am trying to trace my ancestors from south uist. My great granddad was Alexander (Alistair) MacDonald from Dailburgh born 1885. He married Marion (Morag) MacKay in 1923. His father was Donald Ewen MacDonald (1860-1904) and his mother was Marion currie (1856-1945). He was one of nine...
Peggy (1885)
john (1888)
Donald (1890)
Donald-john (1891)
kate (1893)
Malcolm (1898)
Annie-flora (189?)
Mary-flora (1900)

Some of these dates may be slightly out. I would be very grateful if anyone could help with any of these names as I have looked all over and cant find anything else.
I know that alexander left the island and moved to Oban as did his sister Mary-flora.
His wife Marion (MacKay) left and moved to skye to live with their daughter Jessie Nicolson (My gran) and died there in 1956. Alexander and Marion had separated.
Sorry for the long story...am just a beginner and haven't sussed out the jargon yet.lol
many thanks
x
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: angusm1939 on Sunday 01 June 14 22:27 BST (UK)
Except for Alexander, those dates for Donald Ewen's family all seem to derive from the ages given at the 1901 Census. Alexander however was aged 5 according to the Census, so born about 1895/6. Donald Ewen, general labourer, died of typhoid fever in Askernish 9.1.1904 but the family was living in Daliburgh. Donald Ewen was son of Donald MacDonald farm grieve and Margaret MacLeod according to the registration 17.2.1885 of his Protestant marriage to Marion Currie daughter of John Currie and Catherine MacIntyre in Milton. I don't know if you know that the Curries in South Uist were descendants of the great MacMhuirich bards to the Lords of the Isles and then at Stilligarry in South Uist, to Clanranald.
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Monday 02 June 14 15:27 BST (UK)
Thank you for the reply.
I had the name Donald MacDonald and Margaret MacLeod as names for Donald ewen but wasn't sure. I could not find any info for them. I have Donald ewen and Marion's marriage certificate.
That is interesting about the curries, I was not aware of that and am afraid my history is not so good..i will now look it up . I hope to go to uist soon so I can at least be a bit more familure with the place names...
Thanks again
Jackie
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: angusm1939 on Monday 02 June 14 21:23 BST (UK)
It has occurred to me that I know of this family and the Currie half of it contains a trap. if you track Marion b. 1856, who married Donald Ewen MacDonald and settled at Glebe Cottage, Daliburgh, before her marriage you will find her at 468 Lochboisdale in the household of a married couple John Currie [Iain Ruadh mac Eoghainn] 1810-1892 and Catherine MacIntyre 1827-88. However, it was asecond marriage for both of them. John had already had Donald, Ewen, Marion  b. 1842 who married Sam MacKenzie, Roderick and Margaret with his first wife. John and Catherine went on to have two children together, Mary 1862-4 and Mary 1865. However, Catherine had already had children with her first husband, confusingly also John Currie, in the Isle of Eriskay just off the South Uist coast. They were John 1851, Donald 1852, Isabella 1854, Marion 1856 who married Donald Ewen and Mary 1859-60.

That may possibly explain why they are difficult to trace but that Marion's was a Protestant marriage also suggests that someone, possibly Donald Ewen's father, the farm manager Donald MacDonald, was a resident of North Uist or even the mainland.

That makes no difference to the bardic descent. Just Google Niall or Cathal MacMhuirich or simply the surname. In 1800, Lachlan Mor MacMhuirich claimed to be 18th in descent from Muireadhach, the first of the family to move to Scotland in about 1213.
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Tuesday 03 June 14 15:13 BST (UK)
again thank you, so confusing will take me a while to process this...I am amazed at the quick response from people and how fast you can find info..i hope as I learn more I will be able to do this.
From this then was Marion's father john ( from erisky)?..Donald ewens father may well have been from the north as all the results I've had suggest this.
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: angusm1939 on Tuesday 03 June 14 18:41 BST (UK)
You have simplified it exactly! Angus
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Sunday 29 June 14 15:07 BST (UK)
still on the hunt for Uist connection..I have since discovered that further down the line were infact from north Uist . I came across this birth cert for Donald MacDonald parents Donald and Marion. I think it says lawful son but not sure...any help much appreciated :D
would flora also be marion.???
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 07 July 14 18:01 BST (UK)
Hi Jackie,

Sorry but I'm a bit confused here? I thought Donald's parent's were Donald & Marion MacLeod ?
Is this the same couple on the image you posted as her name is Marion MacLean?
You haven't given a year of birth & the date isn't on the image so not sure if I'm following this correctly  ???

Flora is not a name used for Marion but Sarah is an alternative as is Merron/ Merrion.

Anne Marie.
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Tuesday 08 July 14 12:54 BST (UK)
hi sorry for the confusion and yes I see what you mean....I will have to go back and track what I have ...to be honest I've never come across anything more complicated than tracing uist connections lol
il let you know who's who when I figure it out ::)
Thanks again
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Tuesday 08 July 14 16:53 BST (UK)
Again sorry for the confusion...There are a lot of MacDonald's to get through however this is a list of what I believe is the right line..(  However I my be wrong)
Alexander MacDonald b 1995/6  south Uist wed Marion Mackay
Donald Ewen MacDonald b 1862-1909 south Uist   wed Marion Currie.
Donald Macdonald 1823 -1909 ?? north Uist  wed Margaret MacLeod from Harris
Donald MacDonald b 1788 / north Uist wed flora MacLean  ?? Carnish

Not sure if this is of any help but if anyone can shed any more info would be MUCH appreciated.

thanks
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 08 July 14 21:00 BST (UK)
Jackie,

What other info. are you looking for ?

Are you wondering if they had siblings?

Anne Marie
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Tuesday 08 July 14 21:20 BST (UK)
 Anne Marie that would be helpful, also just anything else that could confirm what I already have.
Just wondering if you are same person from Facebook ??
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 09 July 14 12:45 BST (UK)
Marion Currie who married Donald Ewan:

Siblings with mother Catherine MacIntyre & John Currie (Eriskay):

John c1851
Donald c1852 = Catherine Gillies
Isabella c1854 = Angus MacCormick
Mary (Dii)

Anne Marie

P.S. I believe John Currie (Eriskay) to be my relation so need to do some more digging  ;D. I believe his parent's to be Donald Currie & Marion Steele but do not go by that as I haven't sourced it as definite yet.
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 10 July 14 02:35 BST (UK)
Jackie,

I must have checked out John Currie already as I have his marriage from 2 years ago  ::)

John Currie (Farmer) 45yrs, Lochboisdale married Catherine Currie (m/s MacIntyre) 29yrs, Lochboisdale  - (both widowed) 5 Feb 1861 at Bornish' Howmore.

John's parent's Ewen Currie (dec) & Margaret MacInnes (dec)
Catherine's parent's Alexander MacIntyre (dec) & Isabella MacDonald

Witnesses Rory (Roderick) MacIntyre & Donald MacIntyre

I have also found death cert. for Donald Currie d 12 Mar 1908, S/Lochboisdale, Boisdale, married to Marion MacAskill (alive) son of John Currie & 1st wife Mary MacIntyre. Registered by Alexander Currie (Son)

I also found marriage cert. for John Currie (Tailer), S/Lochboisdale, Boisdale & Peggie MacIsaac (Domestic Servant), East Kilbride, Boisdale, S/UIst married 1 Feb 1916, Eriskay.

John's parent's Donald Currie, Fisherman (brother of your Marion) & Catherine Gillies
Peggie's parent's Neil MacIsaac & Bella (Isabella) MacIntyre

Witnesses John MacIsaac & Mary Currie

Isabella MacIntyre is my relative :-)

Anne Marie
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Friday 11 July 14 14:49 BST (UK)
Thanks anne marie
I think Catherine Macintyre married twice and confusingly both to a john currie..
Catherine currie and 1st john currie (erasky) had john 1851..donald1852..isabella1854..MARION 1856 and Mary 1859-60. she had two kids to 2nd marriage mary1862-4 and mary 1865.
The 2nd john currie also had kids fro 1st marriage...Donald..ewen..Roderick. Margaret and Marion who married a Sam Mackenzie..

I will have to sit and try and piece it all together but thanks again for the info.
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 11 July 14 21:43 BST (UK)
Jackie,

I recommend FTM (Family Tree Maker) Programme as it stores all the info. you type in. You can print Reports, do charts, add pics, make books & numerous other things included...............well worth the £'s  ;D

Anne Marie

P.S. If you want to swap info. with other's with FTM you can exchange gedcom's which saves typing everything in.
Title: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: chan01 on Tuesday 25 August 15 13:33 BST (UK)
hello all
I haven't been on here for some time and appear to have lost some correspondence.
I am still trying to put together my family tree from the south Uist side.
my grandmother was born in Dailiburgh lochboisdale her name was Margaret MacDonald known as jessie or Seonaid (sorry about spelling). Her parents were Alexander (Alistair) MacDonald and Marion McKay.
Her grandparents were Donald Ewen MacDonald (1861-1904) and Marion Currie(1856-1945) and this is where I get stuck. They married 17/2/1885 and had 9 children however I am at a stand still with Marions parents. I think they were John Currie and Catherine MacIntyre and she may have been married before to another John Currie. I would be very thankful for any help or further info, look forward to piecing together this jigsaw.
Jackie :)
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 28 August 15 21:37 BST (UK)
Jackie, a little more here in terms of past info so that people can add new things for you  :)

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=688619.0

Monica
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 28 August 15 21:46 BST (UK)
... and Marion Currie(1856-1945) and this is where I get stuck. They married 17/2/1885 and had 9 children however I am at a stand still with Marions parents. I think they were John Currie and Catherine MacIntyre and she may have been married before to another John Currie.
Jackie :)

What were the names given for Marion on her marriage and death registrations? Were there any differences? Have you tried to find Marion's birth on Scotlands People? Census entries for her - either before or after marriage?

Monica  :)
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 28 August 15 23:42 BST (UK)
Anne Marie that would be helpful, also just anything else that could confirm what I already have.
Just wondering if you are same person from Facebook ??

Sorry Jackie,

Only noticed this entry tonight after Monica posted on your new post...........yes that's me  ;)

Have you not put an enquiry on https://www.facebook.com/groups/UibhistSUAS/ about your G G/father Alexander  ???

I'm sure you will get some response........I take it you are JS  ???

Anne Marie

ADDED........Not sure if you have seen this MI but I would be surprised if this wasn't a relation buried in Hallan at Daliburgh   ???

http://www.hallancemeterysouthuist.co.uk/view-grave.php?num=663

That might add to your confusion though  ;D



Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: chan01 on Thursday 03 September 15 10:48 BST (UK)
Hi again and thanks for reply.
I have Marion and Donald Ewen marriage certificate which gives her parents as john Currie and Catherine Macintyre (17/02/1885)..
however the only birth cert I can find gives father as Alexander.
very puzzled.
jackie
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Thursday 03 September 15 11:48 BST (UK)
many thanks Anne Marie
confused is certainly what I am, tracing Uist relatives is proving to be a big task but one which I find fascinating.
The Donald Ewen from the grave stone would be to young but could very well be a relative somewhere along the line.
Thanks again for your valuable input.
Jackie.
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 03 September 15 16:20 BST (UK)
my grandmother was born in Dailiburgh lochboisdale her name was Margaret MacDonald
Her parents were Alexander (Alistair) MacDonald and Marion McKay.
Jackie :)

Hi Jackie,

When was Margaret/Jessie/Seonaid  b, where & what were the names of parents, date & place of marriage  ???

I'm confused with the various names as none of the 3 are on a par with each other  ???

Do you have the marriage cert. for Alexander & Marion  ???

When & where were they married, what were their ages & where were each living at time of marriage  ???

What are the details for both Alexander & Marion's parents  ???

A lot of questions but having a bit of knowledge on Uist, names are very much the same where couples with the same names can marry so a bit more investigation is needed  ;D

Have you checked census records too  ???

I did notice the marriage for D E MacDonald was Protestant but his wife Marion Currie was from South Lochboisdale, a predominantly Catholic area  :-\

Anne Marie

(P.S) Feel free to PM me on FB  ;D


Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 03 September 15 17:07 BST (UK)
DUPLICATE POST

To save "Double Trouble" - looking up what has already been established

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=729212.msg5746448

Anne Marie
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 03 September 15 21:38 BST (UK)
Jackie, you are in best hands for the area with Anne Marie  :)

Just a couple of things from me....

The Birth Cert you posted for Marion Currie above can't be the right one from what you have mentioned. Likely you need to be working from this entry here (image on SP) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYPV-F4C

Some other siblings here:

Mary 1862 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYPV-ZXN...likely she died...
Mary 1865 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYPV-ZXK

Nothing showing I think pre 1855 and the start of official registration.

Possible 1861 census - everyone born in South Uist:

John Currie 35 constable
Catherine Currie 35
Donald Currie 9 crofter's son *
Isabella Currie 7
Marion Currie 5
Address: So Lochboisdale Currie's, Boisdales, South Uist

* You likely need to view original census image on SP to confirm John Currie's occupation as a 'crofter' rather than 'constable'.

1871:

John Currie 63  Crofter Of Acres
Catherine Currie 43
Marrion Currie 14
Mary Currie 6
Address: 12 South Lochboisdale, Boisdales, South Uist

Monica
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 08 September 15 21:24 BST (UK)
Hi Jackie,

This is a link to Blue Sten who does look-ups for North Uist Crofts.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=196782.0

I searched all the N/Uist census & although there were Donald Ewen MacDonald's there & in S/Uist, I can't get any to fit his age/yr of birth.

The 1891 census (after his marriage) states he was b S/Uist but I can't find a birth for him which, going by his marriage would have been 1858/9  ???

Anne Marie
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: chan01 on Wednesday 09 September 15 12:33 BST (UK)
Hi anne marie
i will try and put in order what i have.
Margaret (jessie) MacDonald b 06/03/1925  d 29/07/1989. Born dailibrugh , parents were.
Alexander MacDonald b1896 and Marion mackay b 1891  d 06/01/1956.  I cant find a birth certificate or marriage for Alexander but believe they married in 1923 at oban. They also had a son called Donald but have no details on this .Alexander's parents were Donald ewen MacDonald b1859 ?d 09/01/1904 and Marion Currie b 1856 -1945 together they had 9 kids.
Peggy 1885
John 15/03/1888
Donald1890-1/6/1969
donald john 9/11/1891 ?
catherine (kate) 1893
ALEXANDER 1896
malcolm1898
annie flora 22/12/1898
mary flora 17/10/1900

From what i gather marion curries parents were john currie1800-1892 and catherine macintyre
Donald ewens parents were Donald Macdonald1825-1909 and maragret macleod 1824-1892.
Donald (1825) parents were donald macdonald 1788 and flora maclean1788-1877.
Donald (1825) parents were malcolm macdonald and christian ? macvicor?.
Flora maclean (1788-1877) parents were donald macleann and margaret macdonald.

The currie line is confusing as i have two lots of information from diffrent sources but un sure of what is corresct.

I know this is confusing but thanks for the help
.http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=try&db=1861Scotland&h=2048320.

jackie
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: chan01 on Wednesday 09 September 15 12:42 BST (UK)
hello again monica
thank you for directing me to family search...looks good and will look closere at this
thanks again.

jackie
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 09 September 15 13:11 BST (UK)
Hi anne marie
i will try and put in order what i have.
Margaret (jessie) MacDonald b 06/03/1925  d 29/07/1989. Born dailibrugh , parents were.
Alexander MacDonald b1896 and Marion mackay b 1891  d 06/01/1956. I cant find a birth certificate or marriage for Alexander but believe they married in 1923 at oban. They also had a son called Donald but have no details on this .Alexander's parents were Donald ewen MacDonald b1859 ?d 09/01/1904 and Marion Currie b 1856 -1945 together they had 9 kids.
Peggy 1885
John 15/03/1888
Donald1890-1/6/1969
donald john 9/11/1891 ?
catherine (kate) 1893
ALEXANDER 1896
malcolm1898
annie flora 22/12/1898
mary flora 17/10/1900

From what i gather marion curries parents were john currie1800-1892 and catherine macintyre
Donald ewens parents were Donald Macdonald1825-1909 and maragret macleod 1824-1892.
Donald (1825) parents were donald macdonald 1788 and flora maclean1788-1877.
Donald (1825) parents were malcolm macdonald and christian ? macvicor?.
Flora maclean (1788-1877) parents were donald macleann and margaret macdonald.

The currie line is confusing as i have two lots of information from diffrent sources but un sure of what is corresct.

I know this is confusing but thanks for the help
.http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=try&db=1861Scotland&h=2048320.

jackie

Hi Jackie,

Unfortunately my "prescription"  ;D for Ancestry has run out & not renewing it until there's an offer on.

I have the marriage cert. for Alexander MacDonald & Morag MacKay

Married 28 Aug 1923 at Office of Sheriff Clerk Depute, County Buildings, Oban, Kilmore & Kilbride, Argyll.

Marriage was irregular by Warrant of Sheriff Substitute of Argyll

Witnesses;
Alexander MacInnes (Labourer), 17 Airds Crescent, Oban
Mrs Catherine Carmichael, 6 Combie Street, Oban

I have a suspicion that Donald Ewan MacDonald may have been born under a different surname so will have to do some more delving as there is definitely no birth for him by the name Donald Ewan MacDonald for his supposed yr of birth nor on South Uist where he says in 1891 he was born  ???
As his birth was after 1855 it would have had to have been recorded by law but by what name & where, is the  ???

EDIT......& my apologies (was looking at my old South Uist Tree but have updated it correctly to the new 1) I had to keep the 2 because a lot of the info. I haven't transferred :-[

John Currie (2nd husband) & Catherine MacIntyre had 2 kids;

Mary c 1862 d c 1864
Mary c 1865

As Mary was named following the death of the previous by the look of things, it leaves me with a big  ???  ???

Neither John Currie nor Catherine MacIntyre's mother's were named Mary so the Sottish naming pattern was definitely not in use but.............John Currie's 1st wife was named Mary MacIntyre

Marion's father was John Currie husband no. 1 of Catherine MacIntyre  ::)

Anne Marie
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 09 September 15 13:36 BST (UK)
Jackie,

I have just noticed...............

You have a Son for Donald Ewan & Marion Currie named Donald b c 1890........

I believe he was actually named Donald Ewan too  :-\

This death I gave you before 24 Sep 2007 (b c 1934);
http://www.hallancemeterysouthuist.co.uk/view-grave.php?num=663

could be the son of the above Donald Ewan b 1890 but I don't have info. this much up-to-date so I can't be sure although as I mentioned previously, I would be very surprised if there wasn't a connection there.
You would need to get the marriage cert. for Donald MacDonald & Mary MacMillan who were the parents of Donald Ewan MacDonald who died 2007

Anne Marie

ADDED.......Donald Ewan who died 2007, died at Milton, S/Uist which is basically next door (area) to Daliburgh, S/Uist where your Donald Ewan & family were  ;)
The distance is about 3 miles, Daliburgh, Askernish & then Milton
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 09 September 15 23:10 BST (UK)
Jackie,

I will summarise things to make it easier for you  ;)

Descendants of Catherine MacIntyre with 1st husband John Currie

Generation No. 1

   1.  Catherine MacIntyre  (Alexander) was born c 1827 in Boisdale, South Uist, and died c 1888. 
She married (1) John Currie (1) Bet. Aug - Dec 1851 in Bornish, Howmore, South Uist.  He was born in South Uist, and died Bet. 1858 - 1861. 

More About Catherine MacIntyre: Baptism: 05 Aug 1827, Bornish, Howmore, South Uist

Notes for John Currie (1):
I have been unable to establish where John died but his death is not indexed on any of the Registration Districts for South Uist
   
Children of Catherine MacIntyre and John (1) are:
   2   i.   John Currie, born c 1851.
+   3   ii.   Donald Currie, born 04 Jun 1852 in Boisdale, South Uist.
+   4   iii.   Isabella Currie, born 28 Jul 1854 in Lochboisdale, South Uist.
+   5   iv.   Marion Currie, born 30 Sep 1856 in South Uist; died Aft. 1923.
   6   v.   Mary Currie, born c 1859; died in infancy

Generation No. 2

   3.  Donald Currie (Catherine MacIntyre, Alexander) was born 04 Jun 1852 in Boisdale, South Uist, Inverness, Scotland.  He married Catherine Gillies, daughter of Allan Gillies.  She was born c 1858.

More About Donald Currie: Baptism: 06 Jun 1852, Bornish, Howmore, South Uist
   
Children of Donald Currie and Catherine Gillies are:
   9   i.   John Currie, born c 1890 in  Lochboisdale, South Uist.
   10   ii.   Mary Currie, born c 1892 in Lochboisdale, South Uist.  She married Alexander Boyd; born in Oban, Argyll, Scotland.
   11   iii.   Catherine Currie, born c 1894 in Lochboisdale, South Uist.  She married Alexander Campbell; born c 1886.

Marriage Notes for Catherine Currie and Alexander Campbell:
Alexander had previously been married to Catherine MacDonald but it is not known whether he had been widowed

   4.  Isabella Currie (Catherine MacIntyre, Alexander) was born 28 Jul 1854 in Lochboisdale, South Uist.

More About Isabella Currie: Baptism: 30 Jul 1854, Bornish, Howmore, South Uist
   
Child of Isabella Currie is:
   12   i.   Kate Currie.  She married Lachlan Wilson.

   5.  Marion Currie (Catherine MacIntyre, Alexander) was born 30 Sep 1856 in South Uist, and died Aft. 1923.  She married Donald Ewen MacDonald 17 Feb 1885 in Church of Scotland, Boisdale, South Uist.  He was born Bet. 1858 - 1859 in South Uist, and died Bef. 1923.
   
Children of Marion Currie and Donald MacDonald are:
   13   i.   Peggy MacDonald, born c 1886.
   14   ii.   John MacDonald, born 15 Mar 1888.
   15   iii.   Donald Ewen MacDonald, born c 1890; died 01 Jun 1969.
   16   iv.   Alexander MacDonald, born c 1895.  He married Morag MacKay 28 Aug 1923 in Office of Sheriff Clerk Depute, County Buildings, Oban, KIlmore & Kilbride, Argyll, Scotland; born c 1891.

Marriage Notes for Alexander MacDonald and Morag MacKay:
Marriage was irregular by Warrant of Sheriff Substitute of Argyllshire
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 09 September 15 23:40 BST (UK)
Descendants of Catherine MacIntyre with 2nd husband John Currie

Generation No. 1

   1.  Catherine MacIntyre  (Alexander) was born c 1827 in Boisdale, South Uist, and died c 1888. 

She married (2) John Currie (2) 05 Feb 1861 in Bornish, Howmore, South Uist, son of Ewen Currie and Margaret MacInnes.  He was born Bet. 1810 - 1816, and died c 1892.

Marriage Notes for Catherine MacIntyre and John (2):
Catherine was the widow of John Currie (1) of, Eriskay, South Uist when they married
   
Children of Catherine MacIntyre and John (2) are:
   7   i.   Mary Currie, born c 1862; died c 1864.
   8   ii.   Mary Currie, born c 1865.  She married Hector MacIntyre.


Jackie,

I will do the 1st marriage of John Currie (husband no.2 of Catherine MacIntyre) another day rather than completely lose you as his 1st wife also had the surname MacIntyre but all his children are half siblings to the 2 children (both Mary's) with Catherine although only step siblings to Marion & her siblings with John (1)

Anne Marie
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 10 September 15 00:11 BST (UK)
Jackie,

I Hope this tree uploads as it will make it easier to recognise the divides with the 2 husbands......
John Currie (1) 1st hubby & John Currie (2) 2nd hubby  ::)

Anne Marie
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: chan01 on Monday 14 September 15 10:47 BST (UK)
anne marie
you asked for donald ewens death cert...hope you get this
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Monday 14 September 15 11:07 BST (UK)
It has occurred to me that I know of this family and the Currie half of it contains a trap. if you track Marion b. 1856, who married Donald Ewen MacDonald and settled at Glebe Cottage, Daliburgh, before her marriage you will find her at 468 Lochboisdale in the household of a married couple John Currie [Iain Ruadh mac Eoghainn] 1810-1892 and Catherine MacIntyre 1827-88. However, it was asecond marriage for both of them. John had already had Donald, Ewen, Marion  b. 1842 who married Sam MacKenzie, Roderick and Margaret with his first wife. John and Catherine went on to have two children together, Mary 1862-4 and Mary 1865. However, Catherine had already had children with her first husband, confusingly also John Currie, in the Isle of Eriskay just off the South Uist coast. They were John 1851, Donald 1852, Isabella 1854, Marion 1856 who married Donald Ewen and Mary 1859-60.

That may possibly explain why they are difficult to trace but that Marion's was a Protestant marriage also suggests that someone, possibly Donald Ewen's father, the farm manager Donald MacDonald, was a resident of North Uist or even the mainland.

That makes no difference to the bardic descent. Just Google Niall or Cathal MacMhuirich or simply the surname. In 1800, Lachlan Mor MacMhuirich claimed to be 18th in descent from Muireadhach, the first of the family to move to Scotland in about 1213.
Title: Re: macDonalds/ currie uist
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 22 November 15 03:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Jackie,

This is a list of SP Index of births for Donald Ewen (I left surname blank) for Inverness (County) with dates around his possible birth date......& taking advantage of 25 per index with a wider search.

A look at some of these may unravel the truth  ???

Your SR Births Search Returns
You searched for: Surname: ""; Surname Option: Exact; Forename: "donald ew"; Forename Option: Prefix; Sex: "Any"; Year From: 1855; Year To: 1878; County: INVERNESS;

No

1   1864   CAMERON   EWEN DONALD CHA   M   BRACADALE   /INVERNESS   109/00 0011   
2   1868   GILLIES   DONALD EWAN   M   ST KILDA   /INVERNESS   111/03 0024   
3   1857   MACAULAY   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0107   
4   1872   MACAULAY   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0032   
5   1872   MACCORMICK   DONALD EWEN   M   BENBECULA   /INVERNESS   118/01 0044   
6   1861   MACDONALD   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0111   
7   1861   MACDONALD   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0105   
8   1861   MACDONALD   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0006   
9   1864   MACDONALD   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0024   
10   1866   MACDONALD   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0049   
11   1871   MACDONALD   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0055   
12   1871   MACDONALD   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0001   
13   1873   MACDONALD   DONALD EWEN   M   BENBECULA   /INVERNESS   118/01 0037   
14   1874   MACDONALD   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0068   
15   1875   MACINNES   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0024   
16   1856   MACIVER   EWEN DONALD CAM   M   KILMUIR (INVERNESS)   /INVERNESS 112/01 0010   
17   1874   MACLEAN   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0084   
18   1875   MACLEAN   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0077   
19   1863   MACLELLAN   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0064   
20   1871   MACPHERSON   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0025   
21   1859   MACQUIEN   DONALD EWEN   M   NORTH UIST   /INVERNESS   113/00 0093
22   1871   MCASKILL   DONALD EWEN   M   HARRIS   /INVERNESS   111/01 0092   
23   1876   MCASKILL   DONALD EWEN   M   HARRIS   /INVERNESS   111/01 0049   
24   1868   MCPHEE   DONALD EWAN   M   URQUHART (INVERNESS)   /INVERNESS 107/01 0022

Anne Marie   
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Tuesday 09 August 16 00:33 BST (UK)
Hi working my way through your list....however i have drawn a complete blank at finding birth cert for Alexander MacDonald 1895/6 son of donald ewen....I cant understand why i cant find this on SP...i have all the other children but he just doesn't seam to be there...tried other dates and everything i can think of.....any suggestions ??
jackie
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 09 August 16 03:18 BST (UK)
Hi Jackie,

Have you checked this one out:

Correct area (unless however he was born elsewhere) but I only have the index:

1892   MACDONALD   ALEXANDER   M   BOISDALE   /INVERNESS   118/03 0006

If not then widen your search with using only the initials "Al" as he may have been recorded as Alasdair/Alisdair/Alastair/Alistair which is gaelic for Alexander.

The alternative would be to download this death (from scotlandspeople) to see if there's a link:

http://www.hallancemeterysouthuist.co.uk/view-grave.php?num=664

That's the father of the Donald Ewen I posted on this thread previously.

If you check back to my post Wednesday 09 September 15 13:36

That death would be my 1st port of call but that's my own opinion of what I would do if it was myself doing the research.

Let me know how you get on.


Anne Marie


ADDED....I'm assuming you got the name of Alexander from 1901 censu?

I think there's a possibility he may have been born Donald Alexander but known as Alexander to differentiate who was who with so many Donalds...very common on Uist!

The other thing is not to stick rigid with 1895/96...you need to at least expand by a couple of yrs either side as a lot of the time the ages on census' were guessed.
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Friday 12 August 16 14:03 BST (UK)
Thanks Anne marie il try that...I think he was also known as alistair....im guessing he was born before 1904 as this is when his father died, ( died young) and im sure donald ewen was his father as he appears on marrage cert....
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 12 August 16 14:56 BST (UK)
Jackie,

I will PM you the index list.

Anne Marie
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Friday 12 August 16 15:33 BST (UK)
I found that index on SP but its not him....i also put in "al" with thousands of hits but when narrowed down to inverness and boisdale only 1 hit and its the same one as mentioned....there were no others under south uist...
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 12 August 16 17:14 BST (UK)
Jackie,

Can you tell me where you found Alexander (the source), where he was residing, where born & how old he was please (if on census)?

There are 3 Registration Districts for South Uist on SP.

Boisdale, Howmore & South Uist.

If you can give me those details, I will have a look for you  ;)


Anne Marie

ADDED....There are also the Catholic Registers with 2 Parishes for South Uist.

St. Mary's, Bornish
St. Michael's, Ardkenneth

I have not checked the index for either of those as I would have expected (for the era) for him to be in the Statutory Register Index but of course I may be wrong on that  ???

I have found all the ones I've searched for in my own tree (who I assumed were all Catholic) on the Statutory Birth Index, if that helps?


ADDED...There is also Benbecula which I have not looked at.

Failing all else then this may be a route but I would stick with the south end of South Uist for now if you know from your source he was born South Uist as at that stage (1901/1911), I would expect if it was a census it would state Benbecula but again I can't be too sure?

Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Friday 12 August 16 17:59 BST (UK)
alexander appears on the 1901 census along with his siblings...age given as 5 years.( on ancestry).
It states born south uist...district boisdale.....address Daliburgh.
Donald ewen was born in north uist....married marion currie 1885,

I have all the other siblings all born daliburgh...except the oldest peggy who i havent got yet..
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 12 August 16 18:32 BST (UK)
Ok Jackie,

Found it.

Where born is South Uist

Daliburgh on the census is where they were living in 1901

I can't find any Alexander/Donald Alexander born c1896 in Boisdale

I found these for Howmore;

7   1894   MACDONALD   ALEXANDER   M   HOWMORE   /INVERNESS   118/02 0017   

8   1896   MACDONALD   ALEXANDER   M   HOWMORE   /INVERNESS   118/02 0021   

9   1896   MACDONALD   ALEXANDER   M   HOWMORE   /INVERNESS   118/02 0043   

10   1896   MACDONALD   ALEXANDER   M   HOWMORE   /INVERNESS   118/02 0038   

11   1897   MACDONALD   ALEXANDER   M   HOWMORE   /INVERNESS   118/02 0022   

12   1897   MACDONALD   ALEXANDER   M   HOWMORE   /INVERNESS   118/02 0043   


Anne Marie

Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: ellenbrora on Tuesday 13 September 16 13:48 BST (UK)
Hi

I've not been on Rootschat for a while, and have just come across this thread whilst browsing on my return!

Donald Ewan MacDonald b.1859 is my late ex-husband's great great uncle, if my memory has the relationship correct.

His parents were indeed Donald MacDonald, a Farm Grieve, and Margaret MacLeod. Donald snr was from North Uist and Margaret from Harris. Donald snr's role as Grieve took him all over the islands. In 1861 census they were at Luskentyre with their then 5 children, all born in Harris: Peggy, Angus, Mary, Donald (Donald Ewan) and Christina (ex husband's great grandmother).
1871, the family had moved to Griminish, N. Uist and had 5 (albeit not the same 5) children with them incl Donald.

Donald Ewan MacDonald died of Typhoid Fever at Askernish, South Uist in 1904. Informant was Peggy MacDonald , daughter.

If you contact me by private message with your email address I will send you the info and certificates/census copies I have. My ex-husband sadly died last year, and we had been divorced for a number of years prior, but I am still on good terms with his family.

Regards

Ellen
Title: Re: macDonald/ currie..south uist
Post by: chan01 on Wednesday 14 September 16 13:15 BST (UK)
Thank you for getting  in touch private message sent.

jackie