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Title: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: dannybou on Saturday 31 May 14 19:26 BST (UK)
Hello, I am researching two brothers, James and Charles Harrison from County Antrim, immigrated to the USA circa 1767, Loyalists and removed to New Brunswick, Canada following the end of the War. Am trying to locate their parish of birth and their parents. On the PRONI databases, I was able to find a James Harrison in the 1766 census in Ballintoy. In the Church records available at PRONI, I read that the early registers were destroyed in Dublin, but the vestry minutes back to 1713 have survived. Would those minutes contain names of parishioners, families etc... in order word, information that would be of genealogical value? Thank you

Danny
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Saturday 07 June 14 10:43 BST (UK)
Danny,

The vestry minutes generally contain details of church finances, payments to the poor, appointment of new members of the select vestry, and minutes of their meetings. However you do also find odd baptisms and information on individual parishioners, so I wouldn’t rule them out as a source.

Vestry records relate to the Church of Ireland (ie Episcopalian church). Does that fit with your knowledge of the family denomination?




Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: rathmore on Saturday 07 June 14 11:35 BST (UK)
I guess this will be your James and Charles Harrison

http://www.newirelandnb.ca/genealogies-h/harrison.html

he fought for the new jersey volunteers and you been in touch will them for any reords of him they have.
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: dannybou on Saturday 07 June 14 13:16 BST (UK)
Hi

Thanks for both your replies.

Yes my information is that they were Protestants so will now find a way to view that reel in PRONI. If anyone attends PRONI I would be interested for a lookup of that reel.

Correct, that is the James and Charles Harrison I am researching. Still trying to ascertain their origins.

Danny
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: rathmore on Monday 09 June 14 11:27 BST (UK)
Have you written to Proni?

http://www.lib.unb.ca/microforms

archives at new brunswick museum
this site might be able to help you

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestrycom/~bertran/njvolunteers.html

2nd Battalion who received grants of land in kings county new brunswick in 14/7/1784
your Harrison or listed.
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: rathmore on Monday 09 June 14 11:29 BST (UK)
try again

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bertran/njvolunteers.html
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: dannybou on Monday 09 June 14 14:16 BST (UK)
Hello

Thanks for your reply. PRONI has been contacted and they won't do searches in a microfilm. I don't blame them, it would be so time consuming if they would start doing this for us. I have researched the Harrisons extensively here in Canada and in New Jersey, so now am aiming at that microfilm at PRONI.

Danny
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Monday 09 June 14 14:48 BST (UK)
When PRONI do agree to do research they charge something like £15 per 15 minutes, so it can be an expensive way of doing it. You probably need a researcher. Or perhaps LDS have a copy of the film in their catalogue.
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: dannybou on Monday 09 June 14 15:09 BST (UK)
Hi, thanks for your reply. Correct, PRONI are asking for 15.50 pounds for 15 minutes so that is too expensive for me. The FHL does not have that reel unfortunately.

Danny
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: rathmore on Tuesday 10 June 14 10:23 BST (UK)
Have you tried writting to any of the local newspapers.
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: rathmore on Tuesday 10 June 14 11:16 BST (UK)
but this site would not let me open it,
www.billmacagee.com/1766census/1788religiouscensusballintoy.pdf (would not let me open this site)  heading- 1766 religious census for parish of Ballintoy, barnoy of Cary.Jame Harrison Protestant Proni T3901/2
then when you go in Proni on T3901/2 , Bundle No.1104 public record office ireland dublin no MS4173 national library of Ireland
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: kingskerswell on Tuesday 10 June 14 12:34 BST (UK)
Hi,
   I wondered if this was the correct site http://www.billmacafee.com/18centurydatabases.htm

Regards
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: dannybou on Tuesday 10 June 14 15:36 BST (UK)
Thanks for your replies. Harrisons are found in the 1734 and 1766 census for Ballentoy. A James Harrison in 1766, hence why I am concentrating on Ballentoy at the moment. Since the parish records haven't survived back to those years, the Vestry minutes have. If any members go regularly to PRONI, I will gladly pay a reasonable fee to have the Vestry microfilm looked from 1713-1767ish, year that my James Harrison is alleged to have come to the United States. Thanks

Danny
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: rathmore on Wednesday 11 June 14 11:09 BST (UK)
I think some of these sites were free sites and then they closed some of them down.  Rang out of tiime yesterday I go to the library to use the computer.

This was on the Proni Site.
Proni Reference: T3901/2

Title:  Religious Census return for Ballintoy Parish

Dates 1766
Description:  Religious census return for Ballintoy Parish, Co Antrim, Bundle 79 No. 1104 in Public Records Office of Ireland, Dublin. MS4173 in National Library of Ireland.
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: rathmore on Wednesday 11 June 14 11:11 BST (UK)
you could try this site they might be able to help you, some churches in Ireland will not help you because of fraud.

http://www.ballintoy.connor.anglican.org/index.html
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: rathmore on Wednesday 11 June 14 11:58 BST (UK)
http://sources.nli.ie

Copy of confirmation of arms to the descendants of Capt James Harrison whose father, James Harrison, removed from Co Antrim to South Caroline America in 1767 and to the great grandson of the said Capt James, being Lt Col Walter Archibald Harrison Dec 9, 1935

you can type in search box MS4173 or MS114 or James Harrison

I guess these are your relatives have you seen this before?

Why was he removed from Co Antrim?
Title: Re: Harrison from Ballintoy 18th century
Post by: dannybou on Wednesday 11 June 14 21:25 BST (UK)
Hello

Thanks for these links. I managed to find a church record for the baptism on a James Harrison, son of James and Annie on November 6th, 1740 in DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. CATHERINE. This one is interesting.

Not sure why James Harrison left for the United States. In some old books I have gone through, it mentions that both Charles and James had been officers in the Army prior to coming to the US. This could explain why they sided with the British during the American Revolution.

Danny