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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: ansett on Thursday 29 May 14 10:27 BST (UK)
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When searching the 1861 Census The Family that evening were the Robinson Family
The address Walkers Yard Snow Hill Wolverhampton:
John Robinson born C 1824 age 37. Occupation Groom Born Durham County
Wife Martha (Nock) C 1833 age 28 Occupation Tailoress. B Birmingham Warwickshire
Children :Henry1853: Charles 1865: Maria 1855: James 1858: John 1861: Harriet 1862:
Charlotte 1864:All born Wolverhampton.
The visitor to the house is Thomas Nock age 12 years Occupation Plater Born Wolverhampton,
the abbreviation that refers to Thomas shows S.LAW!.. too young to be the son in law to Martha and John.
I do believe there is a connection to the Robinson and Nock families unable to sort this one out Looked all over.Hoping someone might recognise the family names. Do you have access to 1861 Census? Perhaps I read the abbreviation all wrong.
your help appreciated.
Ansett.
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Son in law was sometimes used to mean a stepson of the head of the household ie Martha's illigitimate son
Willow x
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Thank you so much.....That makes sense.
So quick as usual with your prompt reply.Thank you
When I was checking Thomas Nock, nothing made sense:unable to match him up with anyone.
Back to the drawing board.
Ansett.
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No problem
off FreeREG 15.2.1848 St Peters Wolverhampton Thomas son of Martha Nock of Smithfield
If you look at the 1851 census Thomas is living with Martha and her parents
Castle Yard, Dudley Street, Wolverhampton
Richard Nock 76 head b Bridgnorth Shropshire Tailor Journeyman
Maria Nock 52 wife b South Wales
Martha Nock 20 dau b Birmingham assistant tailoress
Thomas Nock 3 so b Wolverhampton (should be grandson)
HO107/2019/6/5
(Castle Yard still exists)
Willow x
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The original census from clearly shows Son in Law! No abbreviation ;D
Just shows why you should always try to look at original documents, rather than transcriptions?! ;D
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especially on a certain site the amount of corrects I keep submitting I should be getting paid!
Willow x
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Hello Willow,
Your help has been invaluable, it all makes sense , you have found ancestors I have been looking for for such a long time.e.g. The Robinsons:Nock connection.
You are correct KGarrad, re looking at the original census,not the transcript I too have found many errors.
This query is one of the last and my subscription regarding access to the census had run out.luckily I found the 1861 census via FreeCEN; Interesting Castle Yard exists Happy to hear something does ....will check that out soon.........happy, happy.
Early evening here in Australia: Thank You
Ansett :-*
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No problem
Castle Yard runs off Dudley Street unfortunately its just a passage between buildings these days the one end of it was demolished on Market Street and new buildings put there in around the 1920's but its nice to know the name still exists
If you look up Dudley Street on Google maps it runs between there and Market Street
Often wondered about the Castle it refers to though as there is also a Castle Street opposite - maybe it was a pub
Willow x
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Hi Willow,
Stretching the friendship a little would Walkers Yard have been close to Castle Yard?
Walkers Yard has been mentioned a couple of times in my research re the Census, long gone like so much in Dear Wolverhampton:
Nice to get the image of where people lived.
Thanks once more:
Ansett in Oz:
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Hi Ansett, Castle Yard and Walkers Yard would only have been about 400 metres apart. Have a look at this link which shows Castle Yard as it looks today.
Willow, you are correct, Castle Yard refers to the Castle Inn according to this link. ;D
http://www.wolverhamptonfolds.co.uk/castleyard.html
Jool
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Thank you Jool,
Thank you for information re Castle Yard and Walkers Yard.
A very interesting link.
I was born in Wolverhampton and returned on several occasions,I have a feeling I would have walked many times in this area.
So nice to get an image of Castle Yard will print this off and place the image in my tree
Best wishes Ansett :D
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Well done Jools thats a really interesting site
Willow x
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Willow,
Thanks for the reminder re copyright.....
Ansett.