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Title: Thomas Southern born in Abram Lancashire 1750
Post by: Greg McGrath on Tuesday 20 May 14 06:57 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any information about Thomas's parents and children. I know that he married Margaret Peggy Orme on Jan 4 1774 and they had at least one child Margaret who arrived in Australia as a convict on the 23rd of June 1804.
Regards
Greg
Title: Re: Thomas Southern born in Abram Lancashire 1750
Post by: heatherjulie on Tuesday 20 May 14 07:27 BST (UK)
Hi

This will be the marriage for anyone looking.

Marriage: 4 Jan 1774 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
Thomas Southern - (X), Aspull
Peggy Orm - (X), Aspull
Witness: William Bancks; James Eckersley
Married by Banns by: Thos. Whitehead


Heather
Title: Re: Thomas Southern born in Abram Lancashire 1750
Post by: heatherjulie on Tuesday 20 May 14 07:29 BST (UK)
From www.lan-opc.org.uk

Baptism: 9 Aug 1783 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh, Lancashire, England
John Southern - Son of Thomas Southern & Margarett
Abode: Abrm. Wigan Parish

Baptism: 5 Nov 1785 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh, Lancashire, England
Margt. Southern - Daughter of Thos. Southern & Margt.
Abode: Abram Wigan Parish
Title: Re: Thomas Southern born in Abram Lancashire 1750
Post by: heatherjulie on Tuesday 20 May 14 07:40 BST (UK)
George Southern
christening: 5 August 1774 Wigan, Lancashire, England
residence:  Wigan, Lancashire, England
father: Thomas Southern mother: Margret Southern

Thos Southern
birth: 23 March 1781 
christening: 14 April 1781 WIGAN,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
father: Thos Southern mother: Margt Orm

Betty Southern
birth: 27 July 1789 
christening: 21 August 1789 WIGAN,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
father: Thomas Southern  mother: Margt. Orm
 
James Southern
christening: 1 November 1793 Wigan, Lancashire, England
residence:  Wigan, Lancashire, England
father: Thomas Southern mother: Margaret Orm


 
 
Title: Re: Thomas Southern born in Abram Lancashire 1750
Post by: heatherjulie on Tuesday 20 May 14 07:43 BST (UK)
Sometimes, if a child died, a second child was given the same name. Although I can't find a baptism for your Thomas, given that he named his first son George, if the above baptisms are correct, I wondered about this one:

Thomas Southern
christening: 21 February 1752 WIGAN,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
death: 11 October 1758 
 
father: George Southern
mother: Rachel

perhaps it is a bit too late to be a brother of your Thomas.
 
Title: Re: Thomas Southern born in Abram Lancashire 1750
Post by: rolnora on Tuesday 20 May 14 09:21 BST (UK)
Hi Greg,
There is a burial for a Margaret Southern wife of Thomas which could possibly be yours,
Buried 20 Aug 1817 All Saints Wigan, age 64 and died of fever
There's a baptism for a Margaret Orme 1753 Leigh Lancashire with father John.
 Also a Thomas Southern buried 17 Jan 1850 All Saints Wigan aged 99 years.

You can find these records on the same website as the marriage and baptisms.
It's well worth a look,there is a wealth of information on it and you might find other records for the Southern family.

www.lan-opc.org.uk
Title: Re: Thomas Southern born in Abram Lancashire 1750
Post by: Greg McGrath on Tuesday 20 May 14 10:57 BST (UK)
All, thanks for the quick replies. I am impressed especially as a first time user!
Greg
Title: Re: Thomas Southern born in Abram Lancashire 1750
Post by: Oboran on Tuesday 30 December 14 15:10 GMT (UK)
Thomas Southern (1751-1850) was son of William Southern (b. 27 March 1722 Leigh, Lancashire) and Mary Fairbrother (b. 12 January 1726 Bolton, Lancashire).  William was son of Thomas Southern (b. ca. 1699).  Margaret "Peggy" Orme, wife of Thomas (1751-1850) was b. 25 August 1753 Leigh, Lancashire, and d. August 1817 in Manchester.  She was the daughter of John Orme and Mary Moss.  John Orme was son of John Orme and Sybil Groome.  Mary Moss was daughter of Marmaduke Moss and Jennett Stephenson.