RootsChat.Com

England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cumberland => England => Cumberland Lookup Requests => Topic started by: wilrob on Sunday 18 May 14 22:11 BST (UK)

Title: john snowdon b1791 cummersdale and hannah
Post by: wilrob on Sunday 18 May 14 22:11 BST (UK)
i have a john snowdon b 1791 cummersdale cumberland he married hannah and they had a son named joseph snowdon b1839 upperby cumberland
what i need to know is hannahs maiden name nanson as its the only hannah i can find that fits also there son had a daughter named hannah snowdon b1861 upperby but do not know her mothers name/josephs wife any help would be appreciated thank you  ???
Title: Re: john snowdon b1791 cummersdale and hannah
Post by: genechaser on Sunday 18 May 14 22:33 BST (UK)
Hi

If you take a look at this site you will find other children for John and Hannah.
The first one being Thomas 1827.

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3ASnowden~%20%2Bbatch_number%3AC055982
Title: Re: john snowdon b1791 cummersdale and hannah
Post by: wilrob on Monday 19 May 14 11:45 BST (UK)
how would i find out hannahs surname and who josephs wife was  ???
Title: Re: john snowdon b1791 cummersdale and hannah
Post by: Geoff-E on Monday 19 May 14 13:35 BST (UK)
Hannah (born 1860) was the illegitimate daughter of Joseph's sister Mary -

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NXQB-KJD

Both Mary and Joseph (both of them still unmarried) were living with their parents in Upperby in 1861 census with Hannah aged 11 months.

"Old" Hannah's birthplace is given as Brisco in 1851 and 1861 census, her aged suggesting she was born 1800/1.  Brisco was in St Cuthbert's parish so this seems a likely baptism https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JMRZ-6QB
Title: Re: john snowdon b1791 cummersdale and hannah
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 19 May 14 16:08 BST (UK)
1841 Census has a Joseph NANSON born c 1762 living in St Cuthbert, Cumberland , with the Lamb Family.
HO107/175/13/St Cuthbert

Marriage seems to be mistranscribed;
Joseph NANSON age 21 (birth c 1761) married Mary TULL age 24 (birth c 1758), 26 December 1782, St Cuthbert, Carlisle, Cumberland

Childrens Christenings Joseph Nanson and Mary nee Fell (Ist 2 just have Mary);
MARY 2 December 1783
MARGARET 3 Aug 1785
MARTHA 24 Dec 1787
SARAH 7 Nov 1789
JOSEPH 9 Oct 1791
ISAAC 24 Dec 1794
WILLIAM 26 Dec 1797
HANNAH 2 May 1801 as given to you by Geoff-E**
ELIZABETH 2 May 1801
( Source Familysearch.Org)

Jane LAMB Christened Dec 1804, was Buried 27 June 1809 St Cuthberts
Parents Robert LAMB and Mary NANSON

So it looks to me that Joseph Nanson is living with his Brother in Law Robert Lamb in 1841 Census

EDIT;
John SNOWDEN Married Hannah NANSON, 7 Nov 1825, St Cuthbert, Carlisle (F/S.Org)
Title: Re: john snowdon b1791 cummersdale and hannah
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 19 May 14 16:44 BST (UK)
This may be Joseph and Marys Christenings given they name their Ist 2 Sons Joseph/Isaac;

JOSEPH Nanson, 28 November 1763, St Cuthbert, Carlisle, Father JOSEPH Nanson
** possible Sibling MARY who married Robert LAMB;
MARY Nanson, 2 Dec 1783, Parents JOSEPH/MARY
Mary NANSON Married Robert LAMB, 15 July 1804, St Cuthbert
(F/S. Org)

MARY Fell,    26 Jan 1758, St Mary, Holm Cultram, Father ISAAC Fell
Sibling;
MARTHA 16 Nov 1750
Isaac FELL Married Mary BROUGH 17 Aug 1749 same Church
(Source FreeREG)
Title: Re: john snowdon b1791 cummersdale and hannah
Post by: wilrob on Monday 19 May 14 17:25 BST (UK)
THANK YOU SO MUCH I LOVE YOUS  ;D
Title: Re: john snowdon b1791 cummersdale and hannah
Post by: lilyJ on Monday 19 May 14 18:07 BST (UK)
Hello wilrob

Robert Lamb and Mary Nanson were my gg grandparents.

I have the Nansons on my family tree as I have the will of Robert and Mary's son, William Lamb, who left a bequest to "my Aunt Hannah Snowden of Upperby".

It was in tracing Hannah Snowden, that I found out she was the sister of Mary Nanson, my gg grandmother.

I am not related to the Snowdens but I am related to the Nansons.

I think that the marriage of Joseph Nanson to Mary TULL could perhaps be a mistranscription as almost all of the children's baptism show their mother as Mary FELL?

lilyj
Title: Re: john snowdon b1791 cummersdale and hannah
Post by: wilrob on Monday 19 May 14 18:42 BST (UK)
hello lilyj

this is my friends tree im helping her with and joseph nanson and mary fell were her 4th g.g.parents,
hannah nanson her 3rd g.g mother
mary snowdon her 2nd g.g mother
hannah snowdon her g.g mother who married william wells
thats if we have it correct yous will be related somewhere along the line feel free to pm if you would like xx
Title: Re: john snowdon b1791 cummersdale and hannah
Post by: wilrob on Tuesday 20 May 14 00:36 BST (UK)
mary snowdon had more children with hannah she also had a may and john she is with i think a joseph jardine just trying to find marriage...joseph has other children with him in the census but going through his census"s he was in upperly cumberland boarding..i wonder if he had affair with hannah 8-)
Title: Re: john snowdon b1791 cummersdale and hannah
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 22 May 14 13:29 BST (UK)
Marriage Reg,
Jul-Aug-Sep 1874
Registration district: Carlisle
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 689

Joseph Jardine
Catherine Foster
James Martin
Mary Snowden

Christenings;
HANNAH, 1860 you have
JOHN Snowden, 20 April 1863, Upperby, Cumberland,Mother MARY Snowden
MARY ELIZABETH Snowden, 24 August 1879, Upperby, Cumberland, Mother MARY Snowden
Birth 17 Jan 1867
(Source Familysearch.Org)