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Could anyone look up 1841/51census for Abraham Rush born 1816 wife Jane c1815 Daughter Mary 1839 around Lincoln to Sleaford area
Many thanks Alan
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IGI has this
Mary <Rush>
Christening: 09 MAR 1839 Scopwick, Lincoln, England
Father: Abraham Rush Family
Mother: Jane
Unfortunately, the 1841 Scopwick census is faint and, although I did spot some RUSHes, I didn't find Abraham.
1851 has
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38 Town, Scopwick
Abraham RUSH 34 AgLab
Jane 34 Cranwell
Mary 12 Scholar
William 10 Scholar
Jane 9 Scholar
Elizabeth 7
Ann 5
Abraham 3
Richard 1
All others born Scopwick.
By 1861, they had added Charlotte (8) and Harriett (5).
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Geoff .Many thanks for reply it proves I am on the right trackwith Abraham I think I might have a problem with Jane as I believe she came from Ireland. Alan
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I think I might have a problem with Jane as I believe she came from Ireland.
Why do you think that? Both 1851 and 1861 censuses say she was born Cranwell, only about 5 miles from Scopwick.
Free BMD has this possibility (but they are the only two names on that page)
Marriages Sep 1837
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GREY Jane Sleaford 14 637
RUSH Abraham Sleaford 14 637
The IGI has these baptisms in Cranwell about the right time (but no Jane)
1. MARY GRAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 21 MAY 1826 Cranwell, Lincoln, England
2. THOMAS GRAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 DEC 1820 Cranwell, Lincoln, England
3. JAMES GRAY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 06 APR 1823 Cranwell, Lincoln, England
4. ANN GREY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 26 JUL 1818 Cranwell, Lincoln, England
All were children of Thomas and Mary Gray/Grey.
Of course, if you have an overwhelming urge to sample some Guinness, you could chase the Irish connection! ;D
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Hi Geoff
Its my wifes side of the tree and she can remember her grandfather talking about his grandmother smoking a clay pipe and talking with an Irish accent.not much to go on though could be a red herring but she is the last arm of the tree left. I know Janes fathers name was Thomas re marriage cert, witness was Ann Grey could be her sister. I do not Know if Thomas is on the 1851 census for Cranwell Lincs could you be so good as to have a look please.
Alan
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1841
HO 107/622/3 - Scopwick
Sch. 5, Page 5
Vicarage House
RUSH
Abraham, aged 25yrs - ag lab
Jane, aged 25yrs
Mary, aged 2yrs
William, aged 1yr
from
Sue :D
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Thanks Sue.I was living in hope of an in-law living with them during the census.I have been lucky before with censuses ,When I come down again I will have to go to Archives to check for Janes father Thomas Grey in Cranwell parish records to see if he was married in that parish.
Alan
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I think there is another (older?) Abraham Rush at the bottom of the same page in 1841, but I cannot make out his age or wife's name.
suepip - where did you get Vicarage House from? That column is totallyl blank in my census! ???
There is a Thomas Gray in Scopwick in 1851
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Scopwick
Thomas GREY 67 AgLab, Scopwick
Sarah 58 Scopwick
Hannah (dau) 24 Dressmaker, Ashby de la Laund
Collison (g-son) 15 AgLab, Scopwick
(Ashby is halfway between Scopwick and Cranwell.)
The same Thomas with a different wife?
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Geoff Thanks again I can feel a trip from Cheshire to Lincoln archives coming on.Good pub and food in Scopwick I seem to remember. I would use L.D.S but I have been waiting since Feb for them to get a film I ordered. Alan
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all baptisms recorded in scopwick lincs-
mary rush bapt 9th march 1839
william bapt 10th july 1840
jane ellen bapt 16th march 1842
elizabeth bapt 23rd feb 1844
ann bapt 15th jan 1846
abraham bapt 11th jan 1848
richard bapt 18th feb 1850
charlotte bapt 13th dec 1852
all children of abraham and jane rush
regards
alli
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In the marriage index transcriptions by Lincs FHS, there is-
7 Aug 1837 Cranwell, Abraham RUSH (son of William) to Jane GREY (dau of Thomas).
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Alli & Geoff E
Many thanks for baptisms it filled in a couple of blanks i had.
The marriage is the right one thank you. Jane's father was Thomas born c1791 and his wife was Mary c1791 both from Lincolnshire I have not found them on 1851 census could well have died. but i have not found them on 1841 census you do not happen to have a copy of it do you?
Thanks again Alan :)
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Burial at Cranwell
Mary GRAY 19 July 1870 (75)
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Geoff E
thanks again looked at graves when i visited Cranwell but did not find any, will have to back and have another look.
when the weather gets better spring time i think.
Alan
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could it be possible that thomas remarried???
found this family incidentley living same place as daughter jane and family-
living at vicarage house,scopwick in 1841-
thomas gray 55yrs ag lab
sarah 45yrs
hannah 15yrs
SOURCE INFO-H0107-0622
FOLIO-3/5
PAGE-5
regards
alli
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found this burial at scopwick holy cross for a mary gray aged 64yrs buried on 22nd april 1827.
also found these burials in scopwick-
thomas gray aged 70yrs buried 4th may 1853
hannah gray aged 30yrs buried 24th may 1856
john gray aged 72yrs buried 15th march 1832
hope this helps?
regards
alli
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Alli
It makes Mary and Hannah a similar age but different mothers and Mary being the eldest it looks looks like Thomas did not remarry at that time
It is too much of a coincidence that they are at the same address in 1841.could they be relations??
i think it needs a lot more research which will keep me busy.
Thanks for Burial information
Alan
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Hi,
The Rushes belong to my tree too.
Abraham and Jane are my 3x gt grandparents. Their daughter Charlotte married my gt gt grandfather Thomas Cummins in 1873.
I think I have found an Irish connection, Janes mother Mary was ?born in Dungaven, Ireland but have not confirmed this.
Am on night duty at the moment fiddling around on the computer in my break and found your thread.
Can I get back to you tomorrow or Thurs when I have had time to look at home?
Maybe we can exchange details, I have traced the Rushes back to 1655 up to now.
Will be in touch again
Karen in Frankfurt, Germany
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[Good Morning
I am a Rush Scopwick descendant as well - from fFrances 1761. Glad to hear from any others with similar interests and happy to swap further information.
John Taylor
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I have been tracing back the Grays (James, son of Thomas and Mary was my great-great-grandfather). As far as I have been able to find out, his older brother Thomas was still unmarried in his 60's. Jame's son Thomas married Rebecca; in the 1901 census they are shown as having the following children - Charles, Emily, Ernest, Annie and James.
Hope this is some help.