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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: terngirl on Sunday 18 May 14 00:27 BST (UK)
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I hope someone can please help to find where my maternal GGG Grandfather is buried.
I am on a bit of a emotional roller coaster ride at present. I have been searching for years (along with my cousins) to find the death date and place of my maternal GGG Grandfather. I found online last night some transcribed memoirs on the Thorpe Norwich site, written by my GG Grandfather Jesse BALDWIN which I never knew existed. I am endeavoring to find out who the person was that transcribed the letter as I would say they are a direct relative of mine. In this partially transcribed letter, it states where and when his father died.
George BALDWIN was killed on Jan 5 1854 in a horrific train smash in Thetford. He was a stoker on one of the trains that collided with another. I have now read many articles about the accident in newspapers from the time along with the rather graphic detail of his death, inquest etc.
At the time of Georges death, Jesse writes his father was working Eastern Counties railway - now altered to the Great Eastern Railway. Further into the memoir he says he was living in at 12 Railway cottage Thorpe Hamlet.
Jesse writes that his father was brought home in a coffin, so I know that after the accident he was brought home to "Theoulds Buildings near Foundry Bridge, Norwich at the house next to the river in the first row"
However, my quandary is I cannot find where George BALDWIN is buried.
George BALDWIN
Birth 19 July 1812 in Westminster St Margaret, England.
Death 7 Jan 1854 Thetford Norfolk, Vol: 4b, page 277.
Wife of George
Sarah Ann Ellis
Birth 26 Sept 1813 in Middlesex England
Death Apr 1896 in Norfolk, England.
Son and my GG Grandfather:
Jesse BALDWIN
Birth 7 November 1849 in 16 Spring Place, South Lambeth England
Death Apr 1919 in Yarmouth, Norfolk, England.
Any information on George would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards
Tern
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Hi
Just been reading the newspaper articles and checked freeBMD , you may want to alter the year of death to 1854 ;) , to aid others searching.
claire
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G'day Clair
You are so right, sorry George BALDWIN's death was 1854. Thank you for clarifying.
Cheers
Tern
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According to Familysearch.Org he was Buried 11 January 1854, Norfolk, no place given.
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Thanks Trish for the date, appreciate your time.
I have been looking for him for most of today, very elusive.
Will keep searching.
Cheers
tern
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There is a George Baldwin buried at Norwich St Peters Per Mountergate On 11 Jan 1854 age 36 !
See here
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0za1/
Yokel
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G'day Yokel
Thanks for the posting however I don't think it is him. There does not appear to be any association with this area of Norfolk with him or his family the family plus George was 41 when he died.
I wont discount it though and will look into it further.
Kind regards
Tern
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Hello Tern,
Don't want to throw a spanner in the works, but there were two baptisms in Thorpe Hamlet by a George and Sarah Ann Baldwin after the date you gave of George's death.
First one was in November 1854 -
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12865-129155-42?cc=1416598&wc=M66Y-YMQ:30332701,29359202,30332702
and the second was a Jesse, baptised July 1856 -
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12865-127814-34?cc=1416598&wc=M66Y-YMQ:30332701,29359202,30332702
Yorkslass
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Jesse writes that his father was brought home in a coffin, so I know that after the accident he was brought home to "Theoulds Buildings near Foundry Bridge, Norwich at the house next to the river in the first row"
This area of Norwich was in the St Peters registration District
yokel
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G'day Yokel
Thank you for the clarification. I don't have a very good geographic head when it comes to matters of England being from Australia. Your posting now looks very promising, I will definitely chase it up - thank you :)
Yorklass in regards to the two people you posted in 1854 and 1856, the first I have since found is a baby girl which died the same year as George 's death. Jesse briefly mentions in his memoir that his mother couldn't cope with the death of her husband; I don't know how or why the child died but it was a baby (poor little thing).
The second is Jesse's baptism which for what ever reason being, he was not baptized earlier. Perhaps it was due to his fathers death that mother was prompted to do something about it.
Thank you both for your input.
Cheers
Tern
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G'day yokel et al
I am wondering how am I best to contact St Peters Per Mountergate in Norwich ? Any tips gratefully received.
Cheers
Tern
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Hi Tern
This is now a redundant church
http://www.norfolkchurches.co.uk/norwichpeterparmentergate/norwichpeterparmentergate.htm
the Monumental Inscriptions can be found here
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0za5/
I had a quick look through, but didn't see George, might be worth another check.
this is the 1851 census
George BALDWIN Head M 33 Railway Fireman Westminster-Middlesex
Sarah BALDWIN Wife M 32 St Georges-Essex
George BALDWIN Son U 1 St Georges-Essex
Church Alley King Street, Norwich
PRO Reference: HO/107/1814 Folio:261 Page:13
so he would have been born 1818 according to that!
Is there an error in the transcript, the son George instead of Jesse (perhaps someone could check the original)
yokel