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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: TracyJames50 on Thursday 15 May 14 01:43 BST (UK)
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Hi Everyone
I'm hoping someone can please help with the location and hopefully a photo of a house that ancestors of mine lived in. The name of the house was "Sherwood" and it was located in Tyr Wynch Road, St Mellons according to the probate of my gg aunt Florence Mary Caroline German nee James. I believe my James' may have lived here at some time but Florence and her husband Herbert Reginald definately lived here as it's also listed in immigration records.
I did find mention of a 'Sherwood' in Newport Road, Roath, wrong road I know but am wondering if the roads have changed over the years or perhaps 'Sherwood' was on a corner?.....all guesswork though.
Appreciate your help.
Tracy
New Zealand
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Hello
I have just looked at Kellys Diretory for 1967 and Tyrwynch Road seems to be just off
Newport Road. Only one property mentioned
a Thomas Clifford living at Lynch Gate House.
Perhaps somebody else may have a previous Directory it may contain other information.
Slyvia
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Thanks for your efforts Sylvia :)
After using google maps yesterday I'm wondering if it may have changed name over the years. Apparently it was quite a large house and at one stage the family used it as a B&B or lodging house.
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Hi. Tyr Winch Road is in Old St. Mellons, on the outskirts of Cardiff. I googled Sherwood, Tyr Winch Road and got some estate agent's details of a modern house at that address. I'm wondering if the original Sherwood was demolished and a new house built on the land. Not what you want to hear, I know, but I think it's definitely the location. If it was a guest house in its original form, there could possibly be something in old directories? I'll have a look and let you know if I find anything.
Good luck.
Gill
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Thanks for your help Gill :)
If it's any help it was definately called 'Sherwood', St Mellons, Near Cardiff in 1948 according to immigration record of ancestor Clifford James German returning to UK...this was given as proposed address in UK and was his parents address. When his mother Florence Mary Caroline German died in 1953 her address on probate was 'Sherwood', Tyr Winch Rd, St Mellons. Florence's husband Herbert German died in 1969 but have been unable to find a probate record or any other record for him to confirm address.
There is also reference when I googled that a Abraham Hood moved permanetly to Wales from Scotland in 1867 and his home in Wales was called 'Sherwood', Newport Road, Cardiff...could be just coincidence?
Is there somewhere in Wales where land/street records are held for the years in question?.....maybe this would help solve my mystery ??? :)
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I can see a 1937 directory for the area - lists the properties in "Ty Winch" Road as follows
from the main road
Hillside,
The Bngalow
Churchyard
William Nicholls Convalescent Homes
The Lodge
Groeslechfechan
here cross over
Parkview
Sherwood [occupant H R German]
Springfield Terrace
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Thanks for your help Mabel :)
Can you please let me know which "Directory" you found this in please?
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Hello Tracy
I am going to the Library today and I will see if I can see anything in the
South Wales Echo.
Sylvia
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Thanks Sylvia :)
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sorry - it was Western Mail 1937 directory of Cardiff
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Part two
All the directories that I looked at were Western Mail
I found death notice
Suddenly on December 15th Herbert Reginald German of Sherwood Ty Winch Road
husband of the late Florence and a devoted father.
Resting at Roath Court Funeral Home until the service at the Chapel
on Friday at 9.15 afterwards Gentlemen only to Cathays Cemetery
Sylvia
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Thanks for details of death notice Sylvia :)
What newspaper was this in and what date please.....I think Welsh Newspapers online won't have it but do you know where I might get the actual notice from?
Appreciate your help.
Tracy
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Hi Tracy
The paper was South Wales Echo
I looked through so many pages but I think it was December 17th
The Library may be able to help with a copy
e.mail address centrallibrary@cardiff.gov.uk.
I did send another message to you but I see it did not get through I will try again.
Sylvia
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Hi Tracy
Looking at Kellys Directories I can see that Herbert Reginald German was living at
22 Glynrhondda Street until about 1932 or maybe a bit later some of them were missing.
In the 1937 directory and from then on he is at Sherwood Ty Winch Road.
There are a lot of houses in this road and I assume that these were built in the 30s.
I did go to the Glamorgan Archives on Friday but they were closed for alterations maybe
at a later date I could go there again and see if I can find any more information for you
Sylvia
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Thanks so much for your kind offer Sylvia :)
Happy to wait until you've got time to visit Archives, have plenty to keep me busy!!
Kind Regards
Tracy
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Hi, Tracy
Sorry to have been so long coming back to you, (real life keeping me too busy) but I see that you have received excellent help (MUCH better than I could have done!) from other people so I'll step back. I had been looking at old maps and had also come to the conclusion that it was well into the 20th century when Sherwood was built, but Sylvia has already confirmed that for you. I'll leave you to it now - and good luck with your research.
Regards, Gill
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Hi Gill
All help is gratefully received so thanks for yours and if you should come across anything else you think may help please let me know :)