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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: bertyoung on Thursday 08 May 14 17:51 BST (UK)
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Hi I am trying to help a friend surname McClellan.
I have managed to get back to a Thomas McClellan, brush maker, 1852-1912 from Manchester, however on his marriage cert his name is McLeonard and his fathers given name is Daniel McLeonard, silk weaver, deceased.
He was married in St Chads church in 1871.
any help with Thomas' birth or anything about Daniel would be grand
Bert
ps Thomas's first born was called Daniel so I wondered about a Scottish connection naming pattern.
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on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
1871
Thomas McLeonard to Catherine Nicholson , Manchester , Register office or Registrar attended
do I have the right marriage and is St Chads a Catholic church ??
just checking so I can see if anything is on familysearch.org
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There are no Thomas McCLELLAN born 1850 -1854 on www.freebmd.org.uk
was Thomas his middle name ??
where did you find his birth year from ??
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Hi
Is this the family that you have found?
1901
Poplar, Laondon
Thomas McClellan Head 51 born Manchester
Catherine McClellan Wife 50 born Manchester
Daniel E McClellan Son 28 born Manchester
Mary A McClellan Daughter 26 born Manchester
Catherine McClellan Daughter 22 born Liverpool
James McClellan Son 16 born London
John McClellan Son 14 born London
Joseph McClellan Son 11born London
William McClellan Son 8 born London
Sidney McClellan Son 5 born London
342/42/31/188
Birth record for one of the sons
James McClallen
Apr-May-Jun 1885
Registration district Poplar, London
Volume:1c Page:607
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Birth record ???
Thomas MCCLANNON in 1851 Saint George District of Manchester
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1881
7 Roberts Road, West Ham
Thomas McLennon 30 born Manchester Bus driver?
Catherine McLennon 30 born Manchester
Daniel McLennon 8 born Manchester
Mary Ann McLennon 6 born Manchester
Catherine McLennon 2 born Liverpool
Agnes McLennons 5 months born London
1718/22/7
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Possible?
1861
21 Back Dimity Street, Manchester
David McLenon Head 39 born Ireland Silk Weaver
Mary Ann McLenon Wife 32 born Ireland
Thomas McLenon Son 19 born Manchester birth out by 10 years :-\
Sarah McLenon 7 born Manchester
Mary McLenon 4 born Manchester
2963/81/19
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Wow thank you,
I got Thomas' dob from census and marriage cert details.
The 1901 and 1881 results are the correct family but I have never seen the 1861 results as I was working on the name Daniel however thinking about it there was one census result where Thomas' son Daniel was called David.
I will check out these new details and report back
Thank you once again.
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Is there an address on the marriage record?
I noticed that there was a Jas Thos MCLENNON baptised in 1871 at St Chad
Heather
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Hi, sorry for the late reply my father in law is in hosp having a hip replacement so have been on taxi and visiting duty.
There is an address on the marriage certificate:
Thomas - 15 Bosdins Buildings
Catherine - 57 Limon Street, Rochdale Road.
and there is one on Daniels birth certificate:
17 New Mount Street, Manchester.
I think I may also have found David/Daniel in the 1851 census as:
David McCleland age 28 unmarried lodger weaver Ireland
with a William McCleland 30 Weaver.
thank you
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Brushmaking is an interesting occupation, as it had what was in effect an illegal trade union.
Have a look at the website for the Society of Brushmakers' Descendants, which explains how people in the trade travelled around the country.
One of my lot from Liverpool unexpectedly turned up in Exeter in 1841. Now I know why!
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Thank you all for your help, I have ordered the birth cert for a Thomas Mcclannon born 1851 as I think that might be my man and should give parentage clues.
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Birth certificate received.
Thomas McClannon born 4 October 1851 - 19 Pilling Street Manchester
Mother Mary Ann McClannon formally Nowlan
Father Daniel McClannon - weaver.
I am thinking they got married between the census and October or did they? what are the chances of them never having married as I cannot find a marriage entry at all?
more head scratching needed me thinks.
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hi
Possible?
1866 at Manchester Cathedral
Mary A Nolan and Daniel McLenon
Heather
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Name: Daniel Mc Lenon
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Nolan
Event Date: 29 Oct 1866
Event Place: Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Thank you, that's interesting.
I have not come across people 'lying' about being married before, I wonder why this might have happened? especially as Daniel died 2 years later in 1868.
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Just catching up here.
The marriage Heather found:
Daniel McLenon 42 yrs Bachelor, Weaver father James McLenon, weaver
Mary Ann Nolan 38 yrs Spinster , father Thomas Nolan, Labourer
Both living at Thompson Street
Witnesses ? Butler and Mary Kelly
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Wow thank you, that fits with ages and occupations. I wonder why they waited so long. The mystery continues.