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Title: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: wyanga on Wednesday 07 May 14 00:29 BST (UK)

Hi all
I am trying to find any living male Taylors who can trace their ancestry to the Taylor families of Rochdale Lancashire. Ancestral names such as  Zacharai, James, George, Richard and Edmund would indicate a link to the families I am seeking.
   There is a possibility that the ancestors of President Zacary Taylor of the US originated here.
 It seems that there were several Taylor families at Rochdale mid 1600's and later that bore these names.
   Finding a living member of one of these families would enable a DNA test to be carried out to either confirm or disprove the connection. 
If anyone can help please contact me.
Wyanga
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: wyanga on Friday 09 May 14 00:41 BST (UK)
I would like to add that it is the Zacharai Taylor that is the most important family that we are trying  to trace. He had 7 children baptised  at Rochdale from 1656 to 1666 and has possibly died there in 1682.
  However his earlier children were at Flixton 1640, Manchester Cathederal 1644 to 1649 , and Bolton 1654 and 1655.
  This Zacharai ( there are various spellings ) may not have originated in Rochdale. Any help in relation to where he may have been born would be very much appreciated.
Wyanga
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 09 May 14 07:48 BST (UK)
Any connection?
Baptism: 27 Mar 1654 St Peter, Bolton le Moors, Lancashire, England
 Zach: ye s. of Mr. Zach Taylor
 of Little Boulton 20 Mar 1654
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: wyanga on Friday 09 May 14 08:07 BST (UK)
heatherjulie,
                  Yes  that is one of the baptisims that I have attributed to this family. There were two at St Peters, Zachry 27 Mar 1654 and a Richard 13th Aug 1655.
Wyanga
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: wyanga on Friday 09 May 14 08:31 BST (UK)
heatherjulie,
                  I believe that the child Zachry b 1654 started having children in 1687 at Ormskisk Lancs, with Elizabeth,  followed by another 6 children Barbara 1694, Edward 1696, Abigail 1697, Orlando 1699, another Zacry in 1701, and Dorothy 1702. These were all christened at Wigan, Lancs.
   My information has come from familysearch.org and is transcriptions. The christening you have quoted would appear to be from a Parish record, so it is good to have the entry confirmed.
Wyanga
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: rolnora on Friday 09 May 14 10:14 BST (UK)
The baptism for Zachry is from Free LancsOPC site.
There is also this marriage.

 12 Jul 1685 St Peter and St Paul, Ormskirk
Zackery Taylor  Clerk, Of ye Parish
Barbara Stanly  Spinster Of ye Parish
    Married by Lycence

Well worth a look to see if you can find any more of your Taylor family

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Pat.


   
 
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: wyanga on Friday 09 May 14 10:24 BST (UK)
rolnora,
           Thank you for the marriage, any information is helping flesh out the family, and may allow me to follow it further.
Wyanga
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: wyanga on Saturday 10 May 14 07:19 BST (UK)
rolnora,
             Thank you for the link to the extracted Parish records, it enabled me to find another child, Mary b 30 Apr 1686 for Zacrhry and Barbara. Also that Barbara died 3 Oct 1689 at Ormskirk.
  Havnt found who he married before reuming to having children at Wigan.
  Unfortunately some of the Parishes have not had the details for the early dates extracted yet, but a very usefull source.
  Wyanga
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: rolnora on Saturday 10 May 14 07:56 BST (UK)
Hello Wyanga,

I'm glad you found the site useful :)
Parish records are being added all the time so it's worth remembering to go back to it every once in a while.
Good luck with it :)
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: wyanga on Sunday 11 May 14 00:56 BST (UK)
Would anyone be able to check the Parish record for the christening of a James Taylor 17 Feb 1639 with father James at Rochdale.
  Rochdale has not yet been extracted in the transcripts for the mid 1600's.
 There were two James Taylors having children about the same time. The original parish record may provide a place for this one or some other detail.
  Wyanga

Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: rolnora on Sunday 11 May 14 07:08 BST (UK)
Wyanga,

If you have access Ancestry have the parish records for St Chad Rochdale and you will find the record you want there. :)
However it will only give you the same details as on the Family Search Record which I'm assuming is where you found it in the first place.



 
 
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: wyanga on Sunday 11 May 14 08:33 BST (UK)
rolnora
          Yes it came from familysearch. Annoyingly Ancestry blocks me from viewing these records. Apparently my membership does not cover them.
Wyanga
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: rolnora on Sunday 11 May 14 09:30 BST (UK)

Yes, it does depend on which membership package you have as to what you can and can't see.

The early parish registers rarely gave much more detail than the name of the child, father's name and the church.
So even looking at the actual parish register it wouldn't give you anything more than you already have from family search.

 
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: rt-sails on Monday 12 May 14 00:00 BST (UK)
To further clarify, the Zacary Taylor who was having children in Lancs in the 1680s could have been a cousin or brother of the man who emigrated to Virginia, apparently ca1660 and not the emigrant himself. The emigrant was James Taylor, who was fathering children until 1696 and died in 1698. 
-rt_/)
Title: Re: Taylor families, Rochdale mid 1600's and early 1700's
Post by: wyanga on Monday 12 May 14 00:45 BST (UK)
The James Taylor that emigrated to America was the ancester of the President Zachry Taylor in the US.
     Four of the suceeding generations to James, in America, used the name Zachary in their children.
  We are trying to establish a link between the Zacharai Taylor in Rochdale in the 1660's with a James Taylor to determine who the immigrant James to America might be. 
Wyanga