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Title: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: familybuff on Saturday 03 May 14 23:29 BST (UK)
I'm looking for information about an orphanage/Girls' home, possibly run by the Salvation Army, located in Londonderry in the 1930s and early 40s.  My grandmother (since passed) lived there from ages 12-17, at which point she aged out. She did not attend school while a resident and once told me that the girls had long days full of chores. My grandmother was permitted to still visit with her mother, albeit infrequently. It is possible that it was actually a state run facility for children who were taken away from their parents. I have been searching for this facility for quite awhile with no luck, including just a confirmation that there was such a place and its location, as well as any records that have survived. Thank you!
Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: Daniel079 on Wednesday 04 June 14 08:44 BST (UK)
My grandmother was born in Londonderry in 1923, she was also in an orphanage there until she was 9 at which time she was sent to Australia as part of the Fairbridge program
Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: familybuff on Wednesday 11 June 14 02:58 BST (UK)
My grandmother was born in Londonderry in 1923, she was also in an orphanage there until she was 9 at which time she was sent to Australia as part of the Fairbridge program

Any idea which home, Daniel079?  Being sent to another country at such a young age must have been very traumatizing for her!
Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: Daniel079 on Wednesday 11 June 14 09:48 BST (UK)
I'm afraid not, all I know is that she was born in Limavady workhouse in between 1923 and 1927 and sent to Australia in 1932 from Southampton. I seem to be hitting a lot of dead ends with this one. I have seen the passenger list with her name on it but everything else may or may not be true. The funny thing is, everyone I have spoken to says there were no Dervin's in Limavady at that time (also that Dervin is not a common Irish name) and there is no record of her birth there.
Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: kingskerswell on Wednesday 11 June 14 10:53 BST (UK)
Daniel,
         A little background info. Limavady workhouse closed in April 1930 when the building was converted into a hospital which opened in 1933. The last remaining healthy inmates were transferred to the workhouse at Coleraine. PRONI holds the records for the workhouse, some dating from 1842 when it opened.

Regards
Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: Daniel079 on Wednesday 11 June 14 10:57 BST (UK)
Do you find it unusual that she left from Southampton in 1932? Would there not be closer ports?
Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: kingskerswell on Wednesday 11 June 14 11:47 BST (UK)
Hi,
   Southampton makes sense. The ship may have sailed from London and called into Southampton to pick up passengers.

Regards
Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: Daniel079 on Wednesday 11 June 14 12:11 BST (UK)
Thanks every little bit of information helps. Does anybody know if the children in these homes had their names changed?
Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Wednesday 11 June 14 19:09 BST (UK)
As Kingskerswell has said the records for both Limavady and Coleraine workhouses are in PRONI. Those less than 100 years old are closed for privacy reasons. However next of kin can make a Freedom of Information request to PRONI – which is often granted. If so, you’ll probably get redacted information rather than full sight of the originals.

The Board of Guardians minutes (for Coleraine Work House) may well record whether your grandmother was there in 1932 and selected for the Fairbridge programme.

There were no regular sailings from Ireland to Australia in the 1900s and so in most cases you would have had to depart from an English port. So Southampton seems reasonable enough as the port of departure.
Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: Daniel079 on Saturday 06 September 14 03:47 BST (UK)
I have since gathered more information on my grandmother including baptism and birth certificate however it seems her name was changed sometime before leaving for Australia. She was born and baptised Patricia Elizabeth and her mothers name was Dorothy Soutar of Ballyquin Lislane.  It says she was born in Limavady workhouse in 1923.  Even with this information I am unable to proceed further.
Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: kingskerswell on Saturday 06 September 14 06:28 BST (UK)
Hi,
    This marriage may be of interest. 4Apr 1930 John Campbell married Dorothy SOUTERS in Coleraine Registrars Office.  Coleraine is about 14 miles East of Limavady

Regards
Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: Daniel079 on Saturday 06 September 14 06:32 BST (UK)
This does sound interesting, where is this information from?

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Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: kingskerswell on Saturday 06 September 14 06:35 BST (UK)
Hi,
    I will send you a PM.

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Title: Re: Londonderry orphanages/girls' homes 1930s-early 1940s
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 06 September 14 09:08 BST (UK)
Soutar isn't that common a name (only 4 in 1911 census) and with the first name of Dorothy I'm wondering if this is a possiblity even though Limavady/Co.Londonderry is nowhere near Co Wicklow-

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Bray_No__2/Vevay_Road__East_Side/892171
(Meath Industrial School)
Dorothy Soutar, 14, America, pupil, Church of Ireland
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003636755/
Lavinia Soutar, 11, America, pupil, Church of Ireland
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003636757/

Limavady Workhouse-
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/NewtownLimavady/