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Title: Newbery - Leicestershire
Post by: ericthepenguin1 on Wednesday 30 April 14 22:08 BST (UK)
Hi

I have a relative Thomas Newbery. I think his father was John Newbery (DOB 1811, Ashby De La Zouch), and mother Ann ????   Can anybody give me some more information about the family?

Many Thanks

Eric
Title: Re: Newbery - Leicestershire
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 01 May 14 08:42 BST (UK)
Tell us all you know about Thomas Newbery - place and date of birth, have you got birth cert if after 1837, christening record if before, did he marry, if so have you got marriage cert and who does he name as father, have you found him on any censuses etc

Then we cant start thinking about who his parents may or may not have been, but without more info it is impossible to know where to start!
Title: Re: Newbery - Leicestershire
Post by: ciderdrinker on Thursday 01 May 14 15:02 BST (UK)
Hi
Is this them 1851 9 William St Leicester?
John Newbery 40 tailor Asnby de la Zouch
Ann 32 glove maker Church Langton
Sarah 13 Asnby de la Z
Thomas 10 Church Langton
Amelia 9 Ashby d l Z
Louisa A 4 St Margarets Leicester

Marriage St George Birmingham 14.4.1861
Thomas Newbery 21 compositor 27 Edward St John Newberry tailor
Mary Hickman 21 no 29 George Hickman blacksmith

Baptism John Newberry 29.10.1810 Ashby de L Z to Francis and Hannah
Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Newbery - Leicestershire
Post by: ericthepenguin1 on Thursday 01 May 14 18:25 BST (UK)
Hi Chaps

Yes Ciderdrinker you have the right family.

I now am having trouble in finding a marriage between a Francis Newberry. (Newbery), and Hannah, (I have tried Ancestry, findmypast and familysearch. That is no to say they haven't got it, but merely i cannot see it. If no one can find further information I guess I may need to visit Leicester Records Office. I have looked at Census's but cannot, for definite, find either Hannah or Francis.

Cheers

Eric
Title: Re: Newbery - Leicestershire
Post by: Dizzifish on Thursday 01 May 14 20:54 BST (UK)
Hi Eric  :)

I think this is the marriage you are looking for, this is the only information given on the transcript I have.

Ashby-de-la-Zouch - 18th Feb 1805  - By banns   
Francis Newbery & Hannah Mason both of the parish.      


Sheila.   
Title: Re: Newbery - Leicestershire
Post by: willsy on Thursday 01 May 14 20:56 BST (UK)
Found this baptism for Ashby
Sarah Newberry  17 SEP 1837 John & Ann
Father a Tailor

and

St. Helen
Thomas Newberry  8 JUN 1806 Francis & Hannah
Sarah Newberry 28 FEB 1808 Francis & Hannah
Title: Re: Newbery - Leicestershire
Post by: willsy on Thursday 01 May 14 21:01 BST (UK)
Francis and Hannah marry at St Helen, there's burial that might be worth noting but no age mentioned at Ashby

Sarah Newbery 23 JUN 1809
Title: Re: Newbery - Leicestershire
Post by: Dizzifish on Thursday 01 May 14 21:48 BST (UK)
There is a burial at Ashby for a Francis in 1864 aged 71, but he is the one that married Ruth.

Burial at St Helens, Ashby De la Zouch
Hannah NEWBERRY - 18th March 1851 - aged 75

It is a shame that Hannah didn't quite make the 1851 census on the 30th March.

No burial for a Francis Newbery, but there is this one, which is likely to be him ....

Burial at St Helens, Ashby De La Zouch
Francis NEWBURY - 6th Dec 1836 -aged 68

Hannah is here in 1841 - HO107/ Piece594/ Book2 - Orgill's Yard, Kilwardly Street, Ashby de la Zouch.
Title: Re: Newbery - Leicestershire
Post by: ericthepenguin1 on Friday 02 May 14 09:43 BST (UK)
Thank you everybody for your help.

I have done my best to trace birth records.

I assume Hannah Mason was born in C1776. i have found a Hannah Mason with a christening at Thornton, Leicester in January 1774. Parents William and Hannah.

For Francis Newbery I assume a year of birth of 1768. I cannot find a 'suitable' candidate on Ancestory.com or FamilySearch. Does anyone have any ideas.

Dizzifish - May I ask where did you get the information about the marriage by Banns? Is it me and the details where on Ancestry, findmypast etc and I just missed them? Is there any information that may lead us to the parents of Hannah and Francis that the marriage banns may help with.........so many questions!!!

Cheers

Eric
Title: Re: Newbery - Leicestershire
Post by: ciderdrinker on Friday 02 May 14 10:40 BST (UK)
hi
Here's that marriage for Francis to Hannah Mason 18.2.1805.
Both groom and bride from Ashby de la Zouch both make a cross.
witness Richard Freeman x and Joseph Hallam signed and it was by banns.

But even though it doesn't say so it looks like Francis had been married before at Ashby 12.10.1789 to a Frances Chissell witness Joseph Hallam and Hannah Elliot by banns Bridge makes a x
They have 3 children
Richard 4.7.1790
Francis 10.2.1793
William 8.4.1798

Frances Chiswell was baptised at Ashby de le Zouch d of Thomas 27.11.1763.
Thomas married a Ann Elliot 4.11.1752 so that is the Elliot connection.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Newbery - Leicestershire
Post by: Jo New on Friday 09 May 14 20:52 BST (UK)
Hello Eric

I think we could be related !
Francis Newbery and Frances Chissel are my husbands decendants.
I have that John Newbery ( son of Francis & Hannah Mason)  married Ann Ison 18 Oct 1831 St Philip, Warwickshire, England,, although Im not 100% that this is them.. although in 1851 census there is a John Newbery aged 40 years, born Ashy de la zouch a tailor married to Ann  Their children I have are Mary Ann , Frederick, Sarah, Emma, Thomas, Amelia, Louisa A, Emma J, Frances H and John Henry. If you would like to inbox me , we could compare notes :O)
regards Jo
Title: Re: Newbery - Leicestershire
Post by: sandralost on Sunday 17 December 17 22:37 GMT (UK)
Hello would anybody know anything about Orgill's yard? Where was it? Who owned it? Etc
No mention of it anywhere?
Kind regards
Sandra (Australia)