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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Sue Hayes on Sunday 27 April 14 11:49 BST (UK)
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I am looking for any information regarding Walter Beckensell born 1883 in New Zealand and died in Gallipoli in 1915 I am his great granddaughter and I am interested to find as much information as I can. I am also interested to hear from any possible relationd
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Hi Sue,
Welcome to rootschat. :) Here is his digitised ww1 record in case you don't have it
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=3065257
regards,
Ros
adding : his grave information http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/715744/BECKENSALL,%20WALTER%20HERBERT
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Hi Sue, remembering all the ANZACS who died at Gallipoli. Brave men. Lest We Forget.
Tinam
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Ros are you related to Walter Beckensell
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No I'm not related Sue - was just trying to help find some info for you.
Are you looking for anything in particular?
regards,
Ros
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From NZ BDM https://bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/
1883 reg 1883/ 19678 BECKENSALL Walter Herbert mother Jane father not recorded
regards,
Ros
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In 1878 Jane Beckensall from Timaru is giving evidence at an inquest and describes herself as a widow
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0z28/
Walter says he was born in Timaru on service record
regards,
Ros
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Here is a photo of Walter Herbert Beckensall
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1526717
cheers,
Ros
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Here is an obit
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1525866
PRIVATE W. H. BECKENSALL,
7th Battalion, (killed), was the youngest
son of Mrs. Jane Beckensall, of Richmond.
He was born in Timaru, New Zealand, and
was 32 years of age. He had been a resi-
dent of Carlton for 28 years. He was a
member of the old 5th A.I.R.
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From Vic BDM
Walter Herbert BECKENSALL married Louisa Hetta O'NEIL in Victoria in 1903 reg 2875
Electoral Roll
1909
BECKENSALL Walter Herbert 60 Princess St Carlton, bootmaker
BECKENSALL Henrietta 60 Princess St Carlton, Home duties
BECKENSALL Jane 230 Palerston St Carlton, Home Duties
1914
BECKENSALL Walter Herbert 94 Canning St,Carlton, Bootmaker,
BECKENSALL Jane 230 Palmerston St, Carlton, Home duties
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Henrietta L BECKENSALL married George RUSSELL in 1915 in Sydney, NSW reg 9052
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Jane BECKENSALL died in Victoria in 1922 aged 82 years with mother Jane EVANS and father George BECKENSALL reg 3435 according to the index
However I think she was the widow of George BECKENSALL
Here is another thread on this family - a family member for you to contact Sue :)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=462598.0
regards,
Ros
I sent mcgyver a personal message to alert him to this thread
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This seems to be the death of Henrietta's father in 1903 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article138688343
O'NEIL.—On the 30th June, at Albany, West Australia, Francis James, dearly beloved husband
of Henrietta Louisa O'Neil, "Claremont," 820 Lygon-street, Carlton, architect and builder,
beloved father of Alice, Mrs. Beckensall, Ada, Frank, Janey, Arthur, Mary, Joseph, Veronica,
and Bernard, beloved brother of John O'Neil, Mrs. Williams, Mrs. Saunders, beloved brother-,
in-law of Mr. William Blake, Mrs. Georgina Marion Hart, and beloved son-in-law of Mrs.
William Blake, sen., aged 41 years and 6 months (accidentally killed). In the midst of
life we are in death. R.I.P. All papers please copy. (Interred at Albany.)
adding : description of accident http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article56217668
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PROV has digitised Probate papers which do not tell us much more, only that, at the time probate was to have been paid, it was believed that his wife and children, whose Christian names are unknown, are believed to be living in Sydney.
The estate consists of Twenty-six pounds, one shilling and eight pence which is Army pay due to him.
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54
Judith
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Thank you so much Ros I really appreciate all the information
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A pleasure to help Sue. :) It is so sad that we lost so many brave men during WW1.
I hope mcgyver will be along soon to tell us more.
regards,
Ros
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Hi,
1904 Victorian Post Office Directory.
151 Glenferrie Road Malvern
Beckensell Walt H, fruitr.
Gerry
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Timaru Herald 16 Mar 18882
....Mrs BECKENSELL.....widow.........daughter Fanny.....
BDM N
birth BECKENSELL Alice Thirza Jane / George 1876 / 10521
death BECKINSALE Alice Thyrsa 5yrs 1881 / 3580
death BECKENSALE George 29yrs 1876 / 2260
Australian War Memorial Roll of Honour
for Walter Herbert BECKENSALL....informant Francis Julius BECKENSALL
......Walter Herbert arrived in Australia aged 7 months.
http://static.awm.gov.au/images/collection/pdf/RCDIG1068852--502-.PDF
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FreeBDM Dec Q 1868
BECKENSELL George Abingdon 2C 605
EVANS Jane Abingdon 2C 605
Possibly your family?
Census 1871 at Steverton Berkshire
BECKENSALL George 23yrs ag. labourer b. Steventon Berkshire
BECKENSALL Jane 28yrs dressmaker b. Milton, Hill, Brekshire
EVANS Fanny 6yrs b. Steventon Berkshire
BECKENSALL Thursa G 2yrs b. Steventon Berkshire
BECKENSALL Albert E 10mths b. Steventon Berkshire
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There are two births to 1918 in NSW for George RUSSELL and wife Henrietta L.
RUSSELL, George A. Father George, mother Henrietta L. At Manly 1916. Reg 39527
RUSSELL, Neville. Father George. Mother Henrietta L. At Manly. 1918. Reg 38513.
Sue
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Two births in Victoria
BECKENSALL Albt Edwd
Father Walt Herbt
Mother Hetta ONEILL
Birth Place CARLTON
Year 1905
Reg. 16587
BECKENSALL Francis Walt
Father Walt Herbt
Mother Hetta Louisa ONEIL
Birth Place K HILL
Year 1904
Reg. 3906
Sue
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This is the death of the man who was the informant for the AWM
BECKENSALL Francis Julius
Father Beckensall George
Mother Jane UNKNOWN
Death Place CAULFIELD
Age 55
Year 1936
Reg Number 3734
Sue
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Albert Edward RUSSELL (born Beckensall) died in NSW in 1980
9270/1980 RUSSELL Albert Edward father Walter RUSSELL mother Henrietta Louisa
I can't see a death notice
regards,
Ros
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Possible ...
Francis Walter RUSSELL (born Beckensall) died in NSW in 1978
15290/1978 RUSSELL Francis Walter father GEORGE mother HENRIETTA
from Ryerson's http://ryersonindex.net/search.php
RUSSELL Francis Walter Death notice 26JUN1978 Death age 74 late of Cabramatta, formerly of Stanmore Sydney Morning Herald 28JUN1978
I will look up the death notice.
RUSSELL Francis Walter June 26 1978 (suddenly) late of Cabramatta, formerly of Cardigan Street Stanmore dearly loved husband of V fond father and father-in-law of F and V, G and G, L and J, J,B, Lionel(deceased),V and M, L and F, R and D, J and G and loved grandfather of their families, aged 74 years. In God's care.
I will pm the names :) A large family :)
regards,
Ros
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It is interesting that the surname was changed as the boys were not infants at the time of their mother's remarriage.
1930 Electoral Roll
30 Lackey St. Summer Hill
RUSSELL,Albert Edward. Lab
RUSSELL, Henrietta Louisa HD
RUSSELL, George Lab
RUSSELL, Another female
Sue
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In reply #18 we see the mention of a son of Jane, Albert E BECKENSALL.
Here is his probable death in Vic..
BECKENSALL Albert Edw
Father Unknown
Mother Unknown UNKNOWN
Death Place FROY
Age 72
Year 1942
Reg 11526
Things were not going well for Albert Edward in 1915.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1555956?searchTerm="albert Beckensall"&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||fromdd|||frommm|||fromyyyy|||todd|||tomm|||toyyyy|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||sortby
Sue
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Francis Julius BECKENSALL also served in WW1
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=3065255
regards,
Ros
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Francis Walter RUSSELL served in WW2
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=290455
adding:
And George A RUSSELL
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=214872
regards,
Ros
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Hi Sue Hayes
Just adding updated info for this BECKENSALL family (I contributed to the earlier thread on the New Zealand board back in 2010 in response to "mcgyver's" enquiry. )
Birthdate for Walter Herbert BECKENSALL is 26 April 1883. ["mcgyver" had given this previously in NZ thread as "25 April 1884". The date of birth is able to be deduced from the online NZBDM listing by "tinkering" with days/months. ]
Arrival of BECKENSALL family in New Zealand :
Per ship "Tintern Abbey" - departed London, 7 January 1875 / arrived Canterbury, NZ on 3 May 1875.
BECKENSELL [Name originally entered on passenger manifest as "BECKWITH" - with correction noted as "BECKENSELL". ]
- George - 37* years - County: Berks. - Occupation: Labourer
- Jane - 32 years
- Fanny - 12 - (transferred to Single women's quarters)
- Thirza # - 7 yrs
- Albert - 5 yrs
- Alice # - 1 yr
[Source: NZ Immigration Passenger Lists at FamilySearch.org ]
[Notes: * George's age is at odds with other known records - clerical error ? or deliberately tweaked ? ;)
# The children Thirza and Alice, sadly died on the voyage (as noted on p. 4 of passenger list image.) ]
~ Lu
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I do not know if in all the threads on this family if this has already been posted ;D
This is probably George BECKENSALL and family on 1861 census. There is perhaps a hint in the name of sister Thursa. George was apparently born around 1850
105 Stocks Lane.
BECKENSALL
Charles, Head Aged 51 Shepherd
Mary, Wife. Aged 43
Henry, Son. Aged 15. Ploughboy
George, Son. Aged 11. Ploughboy
Thursa, Dau. Aged 10. Scholar
All born Stevendon, Berkshire
Death
Deaths Mar 1/4 1875
Beckensall Thurza Aged 24 at Abingdon
2c/242
By the way ;D A last marriage for Henrietta
15665/1947 IRVING John Henry
To RUSSELL Henrietta Louisa
SYDNEY
Sue
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Well-found Sue :)
here is death notice for Henrietta Louisa IRVING in 1949
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article27577972
Adding : NSW BDM
11406/1949 IRVING Henrietta Louisa father FRANCIS JAMES mother HENRIETTA LOUISA at MANLY
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;D
A shame we cannot get any closer to finding the father of Walter Herbert.
I wonder if he knew himself.
Sue
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Funeral Notice for George RUSSELL in 1934 (husband of Henrietta L RUSSELL)
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article17055901
regards,
Ros
(yes it is a shame Sue :( )
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Dear Sue
Hello, I am the great granddaughter of Walter. I shall send you more info when I can get into my computer. His marriage, children etc.
Kind regards mcgyver :)