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Title: looking for info on Mary Stewart Gardiner
Post by: calcon on Saturday 26 April 14 16:22 BST (UK)

Can anyone help

I am tracing my family tree and my great great aunt on my mothers fathers side emigrated to south africa

As far as i have worked out she was born a twin, her name was ann stewart in 1876 in Ardnamurchan

My great aunt started the tree and has Mary marrying a James gardiner

If anyone recognises these names please get in touch , I would love to expand on this side of the family tree

Thanks

Fran

Title: Re: looking for info on Mary Stewart Gardiner
Post by: Nookie on Saturday 26 April 14 19:17 BST (UK)

I have found the following in our National archives.  These are all estate files.  Going on your information I think that possibly the first two do not relate to your Mary Ann, as the second one says 'born in London, however the third one spells her surname as Stuart!   If you wish to order a file I suggest you do it through eggsa.org.  Hope this helps and does not add confusion!

DEPOT     NAB   SOURCE    MSCE     TYPE      LEER   VOLUME_NO 0    SYSTEM    01   
REFERENCE 17756/1932   PART      1   
DESCRIPTION          MCEWEN, JAMES GARDINER. (S/S MARY ANN, BORN STEWART).                 
STARTING  1932  ENDING    1932
 
DEPOT     NAB     SOURCE    MSCE      TYPE      LEER     SYSTEM    01 
REFERENCE 740/1960   PART      1     
DESCRIPTION          MCEWEN, MARY ANN. BORN STEWART. BORN IN LONDON, ENGLAND. PRSP     
MCEWEN, JAMES GARDINER. NO TRACE. DECEASED ESTATE.
                 
STARTING  19600000      ENDING    19600000
DEPOT     TAB   SOURCE    MHG   TYPE      LEER   VOLUME_NO 0    SYSTEM    01   
REFERENCE 3125/43   PART      1    DESCRIPTION          GARDINER, MARY. BORN STUART.
STARTING  19430000 ENDING    19430000 
REMARKS   PREDECEASED SPOUSE JAMES GARDINER

Title: Re: looking for info on Mary Stewart Gardiner
Post by: calcon on Saturday 10 May 14 13:25 BST (UK)

Thanks nookie

I do not know anything of this side of the family so am trying to see what I can find out

Fran

Title: Re: looking for info on Mary Stewart Gardiner
Post by: pampoen on Saturday 10 May 14 15:00 BST (UK)

Could this be his grave? Check this link http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=528551 regards Derek

Title: Re: looking for info on Mary Stewart Gardiner
Post by: calcon on Saturday 10 May 14 15:55 BST (UK)

Thanks Derek
Unfortunately this is not the james gardiner i am looking for i Have managed to get a few more details

Mary stewart born 18th June 1876 in ardnamurchan
married James Gardiner 0n the 25th february in cape town

James then died on 5th August in Kilchoan 1931 - this was where marys twin sister lived they may have been visiting

Mary returned to south africa and died on 4th july 1943 in pretoria

i believe they had 6 children

James archibald
Ralph
Jane Elizabeth Ann
Frank
Mary
John Joseph

Thanks for looking

Fran

Title: Re: looking for info on Mary Stewart Gardiner
Post by: Nookie on Saturday 10 May 14 16:15 BST (UK)

This estate file is for a Mary Gardiner who died in 1943 so I would imagine that it is hers even though the spelling of Stewart is incorrect.  There is often an error in the spelling of maiden names depending on who wrote out the death notice.  Would you like information on her children as well?

DEPOT     TAB   SOURCE    MHG   TYPE      LEER   VOLUME_NO 0    SYSTEM    01   
REFERENCE 3125/43   PART      1    DESCRIPTION          GARDINER, MARY. BORN STUART.
STARTING  19430000 ENDING    19430000 
REMARKS   PREDECEASED SPOUSE JAMES GARDINER

Title: Re: looking for info on Mary Stewart Gardiner
Post by: calcon on Saturday 10 May 14 16:24 BST (UK)

thanks Nookie

that would be great, if you could confirm childrens names that would give me a starting point for looking further into this side of the family

Its amazing the many branches a family tree has

Thanks for your help

Fran

Title: Re: looking for info on Mary Stewart Gardiner
Post by: Nookie on Saturday 10 May 14 16:39 BST (UK)

Will see what I can find.

Do you know the year of the marriage in Cape Town?

Title: Re: looking for info on Mary Stewart Gardiner
Post by: calcon on Saturday 10 May 14 16:41 BST (UK)

i have the 25th february in cape town

Fran

Title: Re: looking for info on Mary Stewart Gardiner
Post by: Nookie on Saturday 10 May 14 16:53 BST (UK)

I think that there is a possibility that, although James died overseas, he had an estate here as well.  In all likelihood he had property or something of value here as well.  If so, I think that these could be his estate papers here.

DEPOT     TAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MHG                                                                   
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 0                                                                     
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 76114                                                                 
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          GARDINER, JAMES.                                                     
STARTING  19310000                                                             
ENDING    19310000                                                             
REMARKS   SURVIVING SPOUSE MARY GARDINER (BORN STUART). 

I have also found estate papers for James Archibald, Ralph, Frank and John Joseph which I will send in a PM.