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Title: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: kagrayson on Wednesday 23 April 14 11:39 BST (UK)
Hello!
Seeking any info on three brothers who emigtrated from Yorkshire, England to NZ in the. 1880's.  Thomas Henry Grayson,  John Mallory Grayson, and William Duncan Grayson.  T.H. was a sheep farmer in/around Gisborne until 1902 when he emigrated to Canada.  John and William stayed in NZ.  TIA,  kelly
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: SmallTownGirl on Wednesday 23 April 14 11:54 BST (UK)
I can see them on the 1881 census, living in Pickering, Yorks, with their parents at "Mount Pleasant" Scalamoor, Pickering.

John, 50, farmer of 300 acres, b. Wrelton
Mary, 40, b. Thornton
Thomas, 17, b. Wrelton
Richard, 12, b. Pickering
Jane, 10, b. Pickering
John, 8, b. Pickering
William, 5, b. Pickering
Mary, 2, b. Pickering
and
5 servants/farm workers

STG
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: mare on Wednesday 23 April 14 12:23 BST (UK)
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search/

marriage on above site

1903/4007    John Mallory Grayson    m    Norah Mary Stephenson

  :) mare
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: SmallTownGirl on Wednesday 23 April 14 12:26 BST (UK)
And three baptisms:

20 Nov 1863, Thomas Henry Grayson, son of John and Mary at Middleton by Pickering
4 Mar 1867, William Ness Grayson, son of John and Mary at Middleton by Pickering
14 Nov 1872, John Mallory Grayson, son of John and Mary at Pickering

STG

Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: mare on Wednesday 23 April 14 12:33 BST (UK)
Also on bdm site NZ

death for John

1953/25307    John Mallory Grayson   80 yrs

actual date worked out is 31/1/1953
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: mare on Wednesday 23 April 14 19:27 BST (UK)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=419893.27

Ref your other topic as above, KHP or Whenu may be able to help you further with family connection NZ  :-\

I tried all the bdm quickly for both brothers who stayed
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: mare on Wednesday 23 April 14 19:37 BST (UK)
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

notice on above site

Birth of son September 15 1899 at Makauri to wife of Thomas Henry Grayson
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: mare on Wednesday 23 April 14 19:43 BST (UK)
Births bmd to Thomas Henry Grayson and Ethel Constance Grayson

1899/8830    son   Kenneth William

1902/4822    daughter  Mary Constance
 
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 April 14 00:22 BST (UK)
Archives hold Army file (1899) for John Mallory GRAYSON.

Also divorce file (1922) Nora Mary GRAYSON, John Mallory GRAYSON. [restricted access].


www.archway.archives.govt.nz


Minniehaha.



Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 April 14 00:35 BST (UK)
A little more.........

John Mallory & Nora(h) Mary Grayson had a son, Rex Mallory GRAYSON, died 1993. D.O.B. 29.7.1903.

Rex Mallory GRAYSON married Renfrew Ellen KINNIMONT in 1930. She died in 1982, born 29.7.1912.

Archives hold a file for Rex Mallory GRAYSON (1947) "Gisborne Action File", held @ Auckland.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 April 14 00:46 BST (UK)
An interesting snippet re John Mallory GRAYSON appears in the 'Poverty Bay Herald' dated 4.1.1901.

It concerns selection for the Sixth Contingent and gives the weight, age, height & chest measurement for John Mallory.


http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 April 14 01:00 BST (UK)
Marriage for Thomas Henry GRAYSON to Ethel Constance WATKINS, 1898.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 April 14 01:17 BST (UK)
The 'Poverty Bay Herald' has a number of advertisements about the sale of BUSHMERE FARM and household effects of Mr. T. H. GRAYSON between the dates, 22.12.1900 and September 1902.

See in particular article dated 29.12.1900 which gives a description of the farm.

[From "Papers Past" website, address provided in earlier post.]


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 April 14 02:02 BST (UK)
William Duncan GRAYSON is proving difficult to find.

There is one possible marriage, 1896, William GRAYSON to Emily ROWLAND.

As both Thomas Henry & John Mallory lived in the Poverty Bay region it is possible/probable that William settled there too.

The 'Poverty Bay Herald' dated 13.12.1899 mentions William Grayson of Gisborne, settler.

Also from the 'Poverty Bay Herald' dated 2.11.1906, "For London, Mr. W. Grayson per Ionic, leaving Wellington on November 8th.

Perhaps William dropped the use of his second Christian name?

[A puzzle: Reply #3 mentions the baptism of William Ness GRAYSON. Could this by some stretch of the imagination actually be William Duncan?]

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 02:28 BST (UK)
Hi kagrayson

Re: the birth/baptism of a William Ness GRAYSON .... there is a death for this child :

DEATHS - SEP - 1872

GRAYSON - William Ness - aged 5 years
Reg'd. at Pickering


-----------------

I have some information re: William GRAYSON who came to New Zealand ... see following posts.

  ~  Lu
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 02:39 BST (UK)
Hi again

It seems that William GRAYSON, on several occasions used the name William Duncan GRAYSON (more particularly for electoral enrolment), but otherwise was known as plain William GRAYSON.

[I'll post electoral details shortly. ]

The 1881 UK census information (given earlier in this thread) indicates that William the brother of Thomas and John, was born about 1876.

I believe that the following NZ death is for the same person.

1951 - GRAYSON - William - 75 years   [bc 1876 ]

                            Burial and other info, to follow     > >

  ~  Lu



Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 02:46 BST (UK)
It appears that William GRAYSON married twice (on the second occasion, shortly after the death of his wife Emily).

The burial details for William (Jock) GRAYSON and second wife Katherine D'Arcy GRAYSON, can be viewed at the following link >

http://www.newplymouthnz.com/
>  click on the "Council A-Z" then  "cemetery and crematorium search" link

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Edit:   oops ... I'll re-check that website  ;D
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 April 14 02:48 BST (UK)
Probate/will (1951) held @ Wellington Archives for William GRAYSON.


www.archway.archives.govt.nz


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 02:50 BST (UK)
Thankyou Minniehaha   ... I'm in the process of posting that probate and other relevant information.

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 April 14 02:52 BST (UK)
Probate/will New Plymouth (1943) for Katherine D'Arcy GRAYSON held @ Wellington archives.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 02:57 BST (UK)
Archives New Zealand (at Wellington) also hold a Probate record for >

GRAYSON - Katherine D'Arcy - 1943


--------------------------

NZ Marriage

Katherine McCormack - William GRAYSON -- 1926


[At PapersPast website there is a death notice (1942) for the wife of William GRAYSON ... but her  christian name has been given as "Kathleen". ]

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Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 03:08 BST (UK)
[NZ Marriage -- 1896 - William GRAYSON - Emily ROWLAND ]

Am assuming the above marriage is the correct one ?   Later records show that Emily had two other Christian names.

NZ Births -- GRAYSON

1900 - Mary Elizabeth
1905 - John Duncan
1906 - Emma
1910 - Zena Joan
   ... all the above show mother as "Emily Maria" and father as "William" :


The following may also be births to the same couple ?

GRAYSON

1898 - Algernon William George GRAYSON
1914 - Liddell McNain GRAYSON
    ... parents shown as "Emily" and "William" :

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Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 03:15 BST (UK)
NZ Death

1925 - GRAYSON - Emily Maria - 50 years   [bc 1875 ]


--------------------------------

Probate record at Archives New Zealand (Auckland office)  >

GRAYSON - Jan Emily Maria - (of) Mangamuka - Married Woman -- 1926


Burial details to follow } ...
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 03:20 BST (UK)
Emily Maria GRAYSON - burial at Rawene Cemetery, Northland, NZ :

Died :   5 December 1925

http://www.fndc.govt.nz/search/search-cemetery-record

[Far North District Council website ]

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Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 04:08 BST (UK)
Electoral

1896 - East Cape - Waiapu

GRAYSON - William - Waimata - bush feller


1900 - East Cape - Waiapu


GRAYSON
- William - Makauri - Labourer
- Emily Maria - Makauri - married
- Ethel Constance - Makauri - married
- Thomas Henry - Pouparae - farmer


1905-06 - same electorate

GRAYSON
- Emily Maria - Te Araroa (wife Wm)
- John Mallory - Te Araroa - contractor
- Nora Mary - Te Araroa (wife JM)
- William - Te Araroa - storeman
   ["wife of" details appear on this roll]

1911 - same electorate -- same details for William and Emily Maria [John Mallory and Nora Mary GRAYSON no longer on this roll in 1911 ]

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Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 04:21 BST (UK)
From 1914 William and wife are in Far North (Northland district) - and their names are listed slightly differently from previous entries :

1914 - Bay of Islands - Northland


GRAYSON
- Duncan William - Umawera - Farmer
- Ian * Emily Maria - Kokukohu - married


[*  "Ian" is likely a transcription error ?   Although Emily's probate record (1926) gives her name as "Jan Emily Maria" GRAYSON her death record listing shows "Emily Maria" GRAYSON ?? ]

1919 - same electorate - similar details Ian Emily Maria GRAYSON & Duncan William GRAYSON ... but both now residing at Umawera.

[ There is also a George GRAYSON, farmer at Kohukohu on same 1919 roll.  Any relation ?  ]
Edit :  I suspect this "George" GRAYSON might in fact be the son "Algernon William George" born c. 1898 who in 1922 is living at Umawera. ?

I've yet to check the 1922 and 1925 rolls (they take a little longer to sift through) ... but did notice that Emily was still on 1928 roll (even though she'd died late 1925) ?
 

Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 04:28 BST (UK)
PapersPast has the following snippet for William GRAYSON of Kohukohu (and I assume this is the same man, the husband of Emily ? )

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz

"Northern Advocate" (Northland) - 4 May 1918 - page 2

... Justices of the Peace (JP's) appointed for the Auckland District.

William GRAYSON - Kohukohu
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 April 14 04:34 BST (UK)
Reply #21.........


John Duncan GRAYSON , died 1978. D.O.B. 28.4.1905.

Probate/will (1978) held @ Auckland Archives. John Duncan GRAYSON, Papakura, retired labourer.

Divorce file for John Duncan GRAYSON (1963), Auckland. [restricted access].


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 04:44 BST (UK)
Hi kagrayson

... oops ... should have checked earlier.   ;D

There are quite a number of "family trees" for this GRAYSON family (of Yorks / Canada & New Zealand) -- able to be viewed in the ancestry.com website.


   ~  Lu
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 April 14 04:58 BST (UK)
Further to reply #21.........

Mary Elizabeth married Arthur Reginald EDWARDS, 1921. She died in 1988, date of birth, 29.5.1900. [He died in 1950]

Zena Joan married John Alfred PARKINSON, 1932. She died in 1987, date of birth, 1.5.1910.

When searching under Emma GRAYSON for a death, the following comes up on the NZ BDM index-

Emma Eastcape HOYLE, died 2000, date of birth, 14.10.1906.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 04:59 BST (UK)
Electoral

1922 - Bay of Islands


GRAYSON - Ian Emily Maria and Duncan William ... same details as 1919


1925 - same electorate

GRAYSON
- Algernon William George - farmer
- Jean Wallace - married   ... both at Umawera

- Emily - married
- William - farmer   ... both at Mangamuka


Edited to add :   Algernon William George GRAYSON married Jean Wallace KENNEDY -- 1922 :
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 24 April 14 05:02 BST (UK)
Hi again kagrayson

I think you will find that most of the details of the children of the GRAYSON brothers (Thomas, William, John) have been given in the family trees referred to earlier (on ancestry website).   :)

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: minniehaha on Thursday 24 April 14 05:06 BST (UK)
Probate/will (1987) for Zena Joan PARKINSON, widow, Rotorua. Held @ Auckland Archives.

Probate/will (1988) for Mary Elizabeth EDWARDS, widow, Ngawha Springs. Held @ Auckland Archives.

Minniehaha.
Title: Re: GRAYSON England to NZ in 1880's
Post by: kagrayson on Thursday 24 April 14 06:03 BST (UK)
thank you to EVERYONE who has provided me with information and taken time out of their busy day to do so.  I am ever so appreciative! !!!!  smalltowngirl,  minniehaha,  lucy2,,  and mare.  u r the best!!!! if anyone needs us/cdn research just let me know!!