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Hello folks, struggling to find any information on my great great grandfather Richard Burnside, born Durham? in approx 1864. He married his wife Sarah Campbell and thats all I have.... :( He was apparently an Autioneer at the time of his sons marriage. I can't find Sarah's date of birth or their marriage. They also had a son called Richard Burnside born 1884 in Chesterly Street Durham who died in Inverness in 1968. His wife was Elizabeth Mullen born 1883. Elizabeths father Hugh Mullen was a Travelling Showman at the time of their marriage. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks ;)
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Hi
The marriage between Richard & Sarah is registered in December Quarter of 1881 at Chester Le Street
That would have made him around 17 when he married Sarah, which is possible, but might need to knock off a few years as he could be a bit older
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Thanks for that! Where would I be able to view this?.....sorry but I am quite new to all of this. :)
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the actual registration is on freebmd.org.uk, but it won't give you anything more than quarter and place and who.
familysearch also has a lot of information but I can't see the marriage on there for the minute as the transcription could give his father.
you may need to get the marriage certificate from the General Register Office if we can't track him down on here
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You might find useful information on freebmd.org.uk in addition to the marriage of Richard and Sarah. The name Richard Burnside crops up in Chester-Le-Street both before and after this event, so you may find both previous and subsequent generations. Good luck.
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Richard Burnside son of Richard Burnside and Sarah, was born on 5 February 1884 and christened on 20 February 1884 at Chester Le Street.
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Hi,
Could he be living in Hamilton, Lanarkshire in 1901/
Possible family living in Quarry Street, Hamilton.
Richard Burnside 46 Coal Miner England
Sarah " 36 England
Children Richard 17, Mark 10, William 7, Annie 3, Bessie 13.
If you think this might be your family , there is a piece in 1900 a local paper reporting a minor disgression of a Richard Burnside, Quarry Street, Hamilton...auctioneer.
Cathy
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That is them in Hamilton in 1901
I've just found the daughter Annie's birth certificate and gives the parents as Richard Burnside and Sarah Campbell, who were in turn married on 31 October 1881.
So Richard Snr was born in 1855 and Sarah in 1865 so that should narrow them down a bit.
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Oh my goodness...thank you for all your replies! My apologies for the spelling of Chester Le Street! I am pretty certain the the marriage of Richard and Sarah in the last quarter of 1881 are them. I am delighted to find this bit of info, and thanks Ruth for pointing me in the right direction in the first place....! It all sounds about right to me. Not sure on any coal miners Cathy.....? That would be an interesting spin on things!! It would also make Richards birth year out by about 10 years...? It would also make Sarah too young at the time of marriage in 1881...?
Last little hopeful question would be.......any chance anyone could possible get me a rough idea of Sarahs age at marriage?
Also, any record of (son) Richard Burnside/Elizabeth Mullen marriage date..?
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OK that has answered the age thing then...... :-\
The only bit of corroboration that I have in my initial notes is that Richard and Sarah had two sons....Richard and William, with Richard being born in 1884. His brother William apparently left as a young adult and went to Texas?
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Hi
The Burnside/Mullen marriage is 16 July 1904 at 6 King Street, Tain, Ross & Cromarty. Richard Burnside Jnr was living in Aberdeen at the time.
I think I have found Sarah Campbell (Burnside) dying but it gives a different year of birth again (1861) but that would correct her to 20 when she married Richard Burnside.
December 16 1933 (aged 72), Sarah Goodship died at the Royal Infirmary in Aberdeen, first husband named as Richard Burnside, General Dealer and second husband Harry Abel Goodship, General Labourer. Sarah's parents from her death certificate are Mark Campbell (Horse Dealer) and Betty (nee Rutherford). I think that must be her. Her cause of death was Chronic Myocarditis, Acidosis and Cardiac Failure
Will see if I can find the Goodship and Burnside/Campbell marriage but with her parents looking like Mark and Betty they may turn up on a census...
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If they were still living in Lanarkshire when Richard jr married then you should try www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
You can buy credits to do searches and access copies of the relevant documents.
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The Goodship and Burnside/Campbell marriage doesn't confirm much apart from the fact that Sarah was living in Inverness and was widowed with Mark & Betty as parents
She married Harry on 29 June 1915 in Inverness and was 40 years of age which again I think is wrong as this would mean she was born in 1875!!! That said Mr Goodship was only 31 at the time so she might have knocked a bit off her age to make it more 'respectable' ;D
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How about
1881 census at Faugh, Hayton RG11 5148 62 17
Mark Campbell, Head, 50, Licensed Hawker, born Spittle, Northumberland
Betsy Campbell, Wife, 50, born Alnwick
Sarah Campbell, Dau, 18, born Glanton, Durham
John M Campbell, Son, 16, born Glanton, Durham
1871 census at Glanton RG10 5175 21 5
Mark Campbell, Head, 40, Horse Dealer, born Tweedmouth
Elizabeth Campbell, Wife, 40, born Alnwick
Mary Campbell, Dau, 16 born Longhorsley
Mark Campbell, Son, 12 born Longhorsley
Sarah Campbell, Dau, 8, born Whittingham, Durham
John Michael Campbell, Son, 6, born Whittingham, Durham
i wouldn't worry too much about the different birthplaces as you often find people just didn't know or got confused
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Thanks Craclyn, I have been using Scotlands People but instead of using my credits at home (as I am new to this and use loads!!) lol.....I go to my local family history unit and pay 15 for the whole day....just thought I'd try find some new info on here for a while also. With a lot of my history being in England, it isn't quite so easy for me to access records. The help on here is amazing!
Thanks again Ruth. With the Inverness link it would seem that this really must be her, I agree. I just need to try and work out the dates a bit better for her birth etc. I and a date down as 1874 which would have made her a mum to Bessie at age 14!! ....I suppose a lot of it is quess work..;-)
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The 1901 census I found has a son William aged 7, Richard 17 was born England, Bessie age 13 British subject USA ,Mark, William and Annie born Hamilton.
Richard could have been a coalminer dabbling in other occupations wasn t that unusual.
Cathy :)
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If you are looking for English records then a good starting place is the freebie sites freebmd.org.uk, freereg.org.uk and freecen.org.uk. For a more complete set of records you could take a look at findmypast.co.uk which is a pay site where you can also buy credits.
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Wow...thats really interesting Cath!!
Ive had a look on freebmd, that'll take a bit of getting used to.... :D
Well, I have managed to find Sarah and Harry Goodships marriage extract, from the Inverness records. All info is tying in nicely with new leads.....what an adventure! lol
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It looks like they did a bit of travelling
on board the Aurania travelling from New York to Liverpool, arriving in Liverpool on 14 October 1897
Richard Burnside, 43, Labourer
Sarah Burnside, 43
Richard Burnside, 11
Bessie Burnside, 9
Mark Burnside, 6
William Burnside, 4
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It looks like they did a bit of travelling
on board the Aurania travelling from New York to Liverpool, arriving in Liverpool on 14 October 1897
Richard Burnside, 43, Labourer
Sarah Burnside, 43
Richard Burnside, 11
Bessie Burnside, 9
Mark Burnside, 6
William Burnside, 4
Wow!! Thats incredible........travellers alright....lol