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Title: Baptism of Mary Tyrer 1805-1811, Adlington/Walton-le-Dale
Post by: cati on Tuesday 15 April 14 20:28 BST (UK)
I'm looking for the baptism of Mary TYRER (without much success so far!)

Mary married Thomas LIVESEY on 22 June 1829 at Walton-le-Dale.  I've found her in the census returns for 1841 - 1871;  they seem to have disappeared from the 1881 census. Thomas died in 1884.

Mary's year of birth and birthplace are variously given as:

1841:  age 30 (so could be born 1806 - 1811) born Lancashire
1851: age 42 (so born 1809) born Adlington
1861: age 56 (so born 1805) born Walton
1871: age 60 (so born 1811) born Adlington

If anyone could find her baptism or whereabouts in the 1881 census, you earn my undying gratitude...

Cati
Title: Re: Baptism of Mary Tyrer 1805-1811, Adlington/Walton-le-Dale
Post by: ..claire.. on Wednesday 16 April 14 01:12 BST (UK)
Hi

Can find one although maybe too young, spelling a bit different,  but just to rule it out

Mary TYROR chr.  29 March 1812 St Katherine, Blackrod, Lancs.
Parents: Fourth daughter of William Tyror & Mary,  nee Makinson.
DOB: 28 Feb 1812
Abode: Adlington
Maternal Grandfather: William Makinson of Adlington.

claire
Title: Re: Baptism of Mary Tyrer 1805-1811, Adlington/Walton-le-Dale
Post by: cati on Wednesday 16 April 14 11:09 BST (UK)
Hi Clare

Gosh, that was quick! - where on earth did you find that? I'm fascinated by the fact that the maternal grandfather is named...

This looks a distinct possibility - it's a possible fit for every census except the 1861, and a marriage at 17 wouldn't be out of the question.

Undying gratitude,

Cati
Title: Re: Baptism of Mary Tyrer 1805-1811, Adlington/Walton-le-Dale
Post by: ..claire.. on Wednesday 16 April 14 22:38 BST (UK)
Hi

Found on www.lan-opc.org.uk

Quite a few children to the couple on there, most with Grandfather named,

claire
Title: Re: Baptism of Mary Tyrer 1805-1811, Adlington/Walton-le-Dale
Post by: cati on Thursday 17 April 14 13:35 BST (UK)
What a very thoughtful vicar!
Title: Re: Baptism of Mary Tyrer 1805-1811, Adlington/Walton-le-Dale
Post by: Mrs. AB on Friday 18 April 14 19:32 BST (UK)
1841 census  Smithy Row, Bamber Bridge, Walton le Dale
Thomas Livesey aged 30 a clogger
Mary Livesey 30
children
John, Alice, William, Thomas and Richard

Richard Livesey's birth reg on LancsBMD in 1839 , Walton Le Dale, Preston mmn Tyrer.

Opposite the Livesey family on the other page is a Jno (John) Tyrer aged 25 a clogger with wife Elizabeth 20 and daughter Margaret aged 2 all born in county.

Marriage from the Lancs OPC site

Marriage: 30 Sep 1839 St Saviour, Bamber Bridge.
 John Tyrer - full age, Clogger, Bachelor, Bamber Bridge
 Elizabeth Braithwaite - (X), full age, Spinster, Cuerden
     Groom's Father: William Tyrer, Coal Agent
     Bride's Father: Robert Braithwaite, Spinner
     Witness: Edward Fortiss; Margaret Tyrer, (X)
     Married by Banns by: William Wignall
     Register: Marriages 1839 - 1887, Page 2, Entry 4
     Source: LDS Film No 1471151

Margaret Tyrer's birth reg on Lancs BMD with mother's maiden name Braithwaite in 1839, Preston
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi

In 1851 John Tyrer, wife Elizabeth, daughter Margaret and other children are at 26 Aqueduct St., Preston where John lists his place of birth as Adlington & is now a book keeper.

Lancs OPC has the baptism of a John Tyrer
Baptism: 19 Feb 1815 St Katharine, Blackrod, Lancashire, England
 John Tyrer - Son of William Tyrer & Mary
     Abode: Adlington
     Occupation: Labourer
     Baptised by: Henry Sutcliffe Officiating Minister
     Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1831, Page 28, Entry 221
     Source: LDS Film 2148001

There is a baptism of Peggy Tyrer..(Peggy being a derivative of Margaret...apologies if I`m stating the obvious  ;D )

Baptism: 7 Sep 1817 St Katharine, Blackrod, Lancashire, England
 Peggy Tyrer - Daughter of William Tyrer & Mary
     Abode: Adlington
     Occupation: Labourer
     Baptised by: Henry Sutcliffe Officiating Minister
     Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1831, Page 67, Entry 529
     Source: LDS Film 2148001

It looks to me that John Tyrer was Mary and Margaret's brother going off this marriage in Bamber Bridge.

Marriage: 7 Jun 1840 St Saviour, Bamber Bridge
 Thomas Wignall - (X), full age, Blacksmith, Bachelor, Bamber Bridge
 Margaret Tyrer - (X), full age, Spinster, Bamber Bridge
     Groom's Father: Richd. Wignall, Sailor
     Bride's Father: William Tyrer, Coal Agent
     Witness: John Tyrer; Mary Waterdale, (X)
     Married by Banns by: William Wignall
     Register: Marriages 1839 - 1887, Page 5, Entry 9
     Source: LDS Film No 1471151

In 1881, Thomas Livesey and family have been mistranscribed as Livsley but are still on Smithy Row in Bamber Bridge.

Thomas Livsley 72 born Penwortham, a clogger
Mary Livsley 69 b Adlington
John Livsley 38 clogger b Walton le Dale
Richard  " grandson 13.

Hope this helps.

AB