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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: Joyce C on Sunday 13 April 14 16:06 BST (UK)
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Hello
Does anyone have any information about the bomb which killed several people and injured many others after falling on houses in Abbey Hills Road, Oldham? I have recently been told that a relative of my Grandmother was killed, along with her young son - all the more poignant because the father of the household was away fighting in Europe at the time. Unfortunately I don't have the names of the family members.
All I have been able to find via internet was that the bomb fell on Christmas Eve (do not know which year) destroying many houses, but newspapers were not allowed to publish details at the time because of wartime censorship.
Thank you
Joyce
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I can't see any civilian war dead listed in the Oldham cemeteries on the CWGC site http://www.cwgc.org/
Stan
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The year was 1944 It was a V1 Flying Bomb apparently and 32 people were killed according to http://aircrashsites.co.uk/air-raids-bomb-sites/v1-flying-bomb-site-oldham/
Stan
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I can't see any civilian war dead listed in the Oldham cemeteries on the CWGC site http://www.cwgc.org/
Stan
See http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx?cpage=1&sort=name&order=asc
Stan
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Hi Stan
Thank you so much for the information you sent. I have been fascinated reading the personal accounts on the site. It has given me more to go on, and I hope to find out more eventually.
Many thanks once again
Joyce
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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/survivor-of-nazi-bomb-calls-for-memorial-1158081
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I can't see any civilian war dead listed in the Oldham cemeteries on the CWGC site http://www.cwgc.org/
Stan
See http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx?cpage=1&sort=name&order=asc
Stan
If this link does not work just enter Oldham, County Borough and nothing else in the search box.
Stan
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Quick gander at the burial registers - hope these help in your hunt
Lees Cemetery
Stanley Jones (27) buried 1/1/45
Irene Jones (22) " "
143 Abbey Hills Road
Hollinwood Cemetery
Norman L Travis (19) Buried 29/12/44
Keith P Travis (19) " "
146 Abbey Hills Road
Mary Ashton (48) Buried 29/12/44 ********
Allen Ashton (18Mth) " " ********
7 unidentified Remains Buried 29/12/44 *******
Hannah Mary Holmes (?) Buried ? ********
* All bodies exhumed 13th Oct 1954 and re-interred in Greenacres Cemetery
Chadderton Cemetery
Sarah Ann Brown (67) Buried 29/12/44
306 Abbey Hills Road
Charles Arthur Jackson (51) Buried 29/12/44
Eva " (51) " "
132 Abbey Hill Road
Clara Hardy (69) Buried 29/12/44
Emily " (65) " "
128 Abbey Hills Road
Malcolm Graham Hulton (18Mth) Buried 29/12/44
151 Abbey Hills Road
George Denton Roe (51) Buried 30/12/44
Alice " (44) " "
Norman " (17) " "
Eveline Martin (32) Buried 3/1/45
201 Abbey Hills Road
*******(Greenacres registers for this period are missing)
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Hannah Mary Holmes
145 Abbey Hills Rd;Oldham
47 Years
Greenacres
Section G14
Grave 219
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Would really like to know what the notes were for these re-interments
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Hi there
Thank you again to all who have replied to my request. I have done what research I can, but so far have not found 2 people fitting the description of a mother and her young son, which is the only family info I have.
Mary Ann Ashton 48 is wife of William, living at Kenworthy Street, and Alan Ashton is son of Ida Ashton of Abbeyhills Road, so presumably not mother and son.
Perhaps mine were some of the unidentified bodies mentioned.
Thanks again to all who have helped - you info has been very interesting.
Cheers
Joyce
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Thank you once again to all who helped me with my query. When I get chance to travel to Oldham Local Studies Centre I shall see if I can unravel any more clues.
Cheers
Joyce
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Hi Joyce, I can't really add anything but my dad was living in Oldham during most of the war. He remembers this incident but did not know your family. He thought it was a V1 (doodle bug) rather than a bomb as confirmed earlier in the thread. Later during the war he stayed with family in Yorkshire and remembers seeing a V1 flying over their town.
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Hi Joyce
Just wondered if you had any luck locating details on your family members? My grandma's house was bombed in this attack and I think a couple of people and 3 children died In the house. Would you be able to share your grandma's name/ surname as I might be able to assist?
Thanks
Jane
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Hello Jane
I'm afraid I have very little info on the names. My Grandmother was Emma Williams (nee Milner) but I don't know if the family who were killed had the same surname or not. The little I know is what was passed down in our family, that Grandma's young cousin, whose husband was serving in army abroad, was killed along with her young child.
I know this is not much to go on, but thank you for your interest.
Cheers
Joyce
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In case you haven't got this information
Civilian War Deaths reported by Oldham County Borough
ASHTON, ALAN
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 2
Additional Information of 139 Abbey Hills Road. Son of Ida Ashton.
Died at 139 Abbey Hills Road.
ASHTON, GEORGE
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 12
Additional Information Son of Frank Ashton, of 75 Marlborough Street.
Died at 139 Abbey Hills Road.
ASHTON, MARY ELLEN
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 49
Additional Information Wife of William Ashton, of 5 Kenworthy Street.
Died at 139 Abbey Hills Road
BARKER, CLIFFORD STANTON
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 9
Additional Information of 136 Abbey Hills Road. Son of Albert and Edith Barker.
Died at Abbey Hills Road.
BARKER, KATHLEEN
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 5
Additional Information of 136 Abbey Hills Road. Daughter of Albert and Edith Barker.
Died at Abbey Hills Road.
BRADBURY, SAMUEL WOLFENDEN
Date of Death 25/02/1945
Age 69
Additional Information of 129 Abbey Hills Road. Husband of Hannah Bradbury.
Died at Cemetery House, Hollinwood.
BROADBENT, LOUISA HOLMES
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 47
Additional Information of 145 Abbey Hills Road. Daughter of the late William and Elizabeth Broadbent.
Died at 145 Abbey Hills Road.
COCKER, JOSEPH
Date of Death 27/01/1945
Age 52
Additional Information Husband of Leah Cocker, of 9 Seventeenth Avenue, Abbey Hills. Injured 24 December 1944, at Abbey Hills; died at Boundary Park General Hospital.
COLLS, MAUREEN COLLEEN
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 10
Additional Information Daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Ronald Percy Colls, of 1 Rowton Road, Plumstead, London.
Died at 151 Abbey Hills Road.
HARDWICK, HILARY KATHLEEN
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 4
Additional Information Daughter of Herbert Hardwick, of 181 Barrow Hill, Chesterfield, Derbyshire. Died at 151 Abbey Hills Road.
HARDY, CLARA
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 69
Additional Information of 128 Abbey Hills Road. Daughter of the late Samuel Hardy.
Died at 128 Abbey Hills Road.
HARDY, EMILY
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 65
Additional Information of 128 Abbey Hills Road. Daughter of the late Samuel Hardy.
Died at 128 Abbey Hills Road.
HILTON, FLORENCE
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 60
Additional Information of 141 Abbey Hills Road. Wife of Percy Hilton.
Died at 141 Abbey Hills Road.
HOLMES, HANNAH MARY
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 62
Additional Information of 145 Abbey Hills Road. Daughter of George and Mary Ann Holmes.
Died at 145 Abbey Hills Road.
HOLMES, WILLIAM
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 49
Additional Information of 145 Abbey Hills Road. Son of George and Mary Ann Holmes.
Died at 145 Abbey Hills Road.
HUTTON, ERNEST WALTER
Date of Death 29/12/1944
Age 28
Additional Information of 151 Abbey Hills Road. Son of Harry Hutton, of 12 Whittington Lane, Unstone Green, Sheffield, and of the late Annie Hutton; husband of Vera Hutton.
Injured 24 December 1944, at Abbey Hills Road; died at Royal Infirmary.
HUTTON, MALCOLM GRAHAM
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Additional Information Aged 18 months; of 151 Abbey Hills Road. Son of Vera Hutton, and of Ernest Walter Hutton.
Died at 151 Abbey Hills Road.
JACKSON, CHARLES ARTHUR
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 51
Additional Informationof 132 Abbey Hills Road. Husband of Eva Jackson.
Died at 132 Abbey Hills Road.
JACKSON, EVA
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 52
Additional Information of 132 Abbey Hills Road. Wife of Charles Arthur Jackson.
Died at 132 Abbey Hills Road.
JONES, IRENE
Date of Death24/12/1944
Age 22
Additional Information of 143 Abbey Hills Road. Daughter of Harry and Lizzie Mills, of 109 Pitt Street; wife of Stanley Jones.
Died at Abbey Hills Road.
JONES, STANLEY
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 29
Additional Information of 143 Abbey Hills Road. Son of John H. Jones, of 24 Hilton Crescent, Ashton-under-Lyne; husband of Irene Jones.
Died at 143 Abbey Hills Road.
KIRKLAND, DAVID BROWN
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 15
Additional Information Son of Ernest Arthur Kirkland, of 7 St. Augustine's Mount, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, and of the late Ann Eliza Kirkland.
Died at 151 Abbey Hills Road.
LUNDY, JOSEPH
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 54
Additional Information of 140 Abbey Hills Road. Husband of Edith Lundy.
Died at 140 Abbey Hills Road.
ROE, ALICE
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 44
Additional Information of 149 Abbey Hills Road Wife of George Denton Row.
Died at 149 Abbey Hills Road.
ROE, GEORGE DENTON
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 51
Additional Information of 149 Abbey Hills Road. Husband of Alice Roe.
Died at 149 Abbey Hills Road.
ROE, NORMAN
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 17
Additional Information of 149 Abbey Hills Road. Son of George Denton Roe and Alice Roe.
Died at 149 Abbey Hills Road.
THORNTON, LUCY
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 79
Additional Information of 140 Abbey Hills Road. Widow of Tom Thornton.
Died at 140 Abbey Hills Road.
TRAVIS, KEITH PAUL
Date of Death 24/12/1944
Age 17
Additional Information Sea Cadet; of 146 Abbey Hills Road. Son of Paul and Dorothy Annie Travis. Died at 146 Abbey Hills Road.
WILCOCK, EDMUND
Date of Death 08/01/1945
Additional Information A.R.P. Rescue Service. Husband of Beatrice M. Wilcock, of 2 Malton Street. Injured 24 December 1944, at Abbey Hills Road; died at 2 Malton Street.
Heather
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Hello Heatherjulie
Thank you so much for the list of casualties, I had not seen it before.
At a first look none of the names leap out as being from my family, but I shall do some more investigations to see if I can unravel the puzzle. As we all know, family stories tend to be a bit like Chinese whispers, changing with every telling, so I can't be sure of the details I have.
Thank you once again for taking the trouble to write.
Cheers
Joyce
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Hello I know this post was a long time ago so I may not get a response.
My nans brother George Ashton died in the bombing in Abbey Hills :( she always told me about him growing up and Iv randomly just googled and found this link! It would be good to know if anyone is related.
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Hello I know this post was a long time ago so I may not get a response.
My nans brother George Ashton died in the bombing in Abbey Hills :( she always told me about him growing up and Iv randomly just googled and found this link! It would be good to know if anyone is related.
Hi, I’m not sure if you will see this post but George Ashton is a distant relative of mine. My great grandma was Mary Ellen Ashton who died in the bombings. Her brother Frank Ashton was George Ashton’s Dad. So my Grandma and your grandma are probably cousins? I’m currently building my family tree on findmypast .