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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Wiltshire => Topic started by: maz1 on Friday 11 April 14 11:47 BST (UK)
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hi
Im just going back over some info I have on the Shield family and i was wondering if anyone has any information on Patney please.
I know various members of my late family used to visit Patney and Im trying to find out more info....
Id like to know, if possible, the names of the members of the SHIELD family who may have lived there. I do know that one lady at least was buried there, name of Irene Shield in 1976 and Im pretty sure her father was buried there in 1931. So maybe it was him who lived in Patney
any help would be wonderful
thanks ever so much
Marian
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The 1911 census shows one Shield family living at Patney, Charles and his family hailing from Norwood, London. Are these related?
No Irene Shield listed, was that he married name?
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I can only see James being buried there in 1931 and his wife Ellen Westbrook Patney :-\
Rosie
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thanks for looking Rosie, hope you dont mind me asking but were there dates of burial where you found the info.... if so please could you let me have please.
thanks ever so much
Maz
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hi Artifis
thanks ever so much, you might have just sorted that little puzzle out for me. Is it possible for you to give me the details of the 1911 census please.
If its the Charles Shield im thinking of his wife would probably be Louisa nee Barham.
Irene Shield is the daughter of James and Ellen, and she never married.
Thanks so much
Maz
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I don't think I'm allowed to give more than I have because of the forum's view on copyright. I understand the NA hold the copyright to the originals and you can't copy them without their consent but that if someone transcribes details themselves from the original images and send them on to someone else that does not infringe the NA's copyright. I wrote to them, the NA, a while ago expressing my understanding of the situation but they never replied so I've assumed, for another situation, that I'm right. Perhaps a moderator on here could clarify this situation, if it's OK for me to transcribe the details from images of the originals then I'll happily do so.
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1911 look ups are not allowed ;)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=355486.0
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thank you to you both xx
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thanks to you both xx
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Sorry Marion that I can't help you. If you're not a subscriber to one of the sites that do have the 1911 census for checking then I'd suggest looking around and see which one does the cheapest pay as you view deal and look at the original yourself.
I do think that the situation has changed somewhat since that advice which was dated January 2009 in that the images can now be viewed on a number of sites not just the one but that's up to the forum administrators.
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Artifis, Is there a free site that you can view the images on now then :-\
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Not a free one but at least two have it where you can pay for a limited number of credits and that would allow you to have a look at the census.
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The link in reply #6 contains a link to this, tips for success
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,492718.0.html
Depending on which site you use, you can gets lots of free info
If you don't have a sub, check out your local library for free in-house access to Ancestry Library Edition or FindMyPast
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Using the local library's free ancestry library edition is an excellent suggestion but as a word of caution, at my library you have to phone up and book one of their PCs if you don't have your own laptop that's got wireless internet connection. That seems the rule for the whole of my county, you might be lucky if you turn up on spec but in my local libraries all the PCs are in use every time I go in them plus there's very little space around each one for note materials and reference paperwork, the laptop route seems the better one as reading tables are used where there is space to 'spread about a bit'. Just my experiences locally.
When recently doing research for a project about the pubs in my home town I found that Ancestry seemed to find what I wanted when other sites didn't. Searching for Shields living exclusively at Patney came up with the Charles guy and his family whereas two other sites I checked to see if Ancestry had missed someone didn't find him or any members of his family, even when I entered the exact entry details from Ancestry's results which I find strange. Having said that if Ancestry doesn't find someone I've found it useful to check on the other sites and in the case of my pubs project in 1871 Ancestry had omitted about over ten pages and some 2-300 residents from one district whereas one of the other sites had these pages - I'd been blaming the enumerator for his failing, I'd thought that maybe visiting the some 13 pubs/hotels in 'his' district had been too much for him. ::)
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thats very interesting Artifis, I found the same ages ago when i was with Ancestry. I agree that you need to double check. So your advice is very welcome.
thanks for all your help
Maz
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