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Title: Non-household census images are vanishing??
Post by: ansimi on Tuesday 08 April 14 20:42 BST (UK)

Does anybody have an idea why the National Archives has been removing the images for the non-household returns? I only noticed it last week and many more have vanished this week. I got a LOT of interesting details from those forms with the descriptions of the houses and the out-buildings and the landholder name and saying if somebody was sick. I'm really glad I saved the most important ones but I sure hope they put them back ???

Title: Re: Non-household census images are vanishing??
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Tuesday 08 April 14 20:49 BST (UK)

I hadn't noticed but can only suggest you e-mail them to ask (and let us know their response).

Title: Re: Non-household census images are vanishing??
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 08 April 14 21:20 BST (UK)

Just tried a load of names at random and everyone had only 2 pages, the front page and the household.
This is terrible.

Title: Re: Non-household census images are vanishing??
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 09 April 14 18:11 BST (UK)

Sent an email to National Archives just got this reply
"We’ve alerted our web people and they’ll have it fixed shortly."

Well spotted ansimi

Title: Re: Non-household census images are vanishing??
Post by: Sinann on Thursday 10 April 14 20:43 BST (UK)

Fixed already, that was quick.

Title: Re: Non-household census images are vanishing??
Post by: ansimi on Friday 11 April 14 01:43 BST (UK)

I actually emailed them the day before posting here and still haven't heard back so I'm happy you got a response and even happier that the response was to put them back!

I think these forms are often overlooked by researchers. Anybody with family on the 1901 or 1911 census returns would be wise to look at all the forms.

Title: Re: Non-household census images are vanishing??
Post by: arkay on Friday 11 April 14 05:32 BST (UK)

I haven't heard of these records before, so could someone please tell me how to access them?  (I just tried the NA website with no success.)
 

Title: Re: Non-household census images are vanishing??
Post by: Sinann on Friday 11 April 14 08:17 BST (UK)

Quote from: arkay on Friday 11 April 14 05:32 BST (UK)

I haven't heard of these records before, so could someone please tell me how to access them?  (I just tried the NA website with no success.)
 

They are part of the Census.
The other pages you can view listed in the View Census Images box. The Enumerators abstract (Form N) is always first just below Household Return (Form A)

Title: Re: Non-household census images are vanishing??
Post by: Sinann on Friday 11 April 14 08:31 BST (UK)

Quote from: ansimi on Friday 11 April 14 01:43 BST (UK)

I actually emailed them the day before posting here and still haven't heard back so I'm happy you got a response and even happier that the response was to put them back!

I think these forms are often overlooked by researchers. Anybody with family on the 1901 or 1911 census returns would be wise to look at all the forms.

I guess I just hit lucky with the person who opened my email.

I had noticed them missing on one or two searches but hadn't noticed they were disappearing, if I'd been looking at my own family I would have noticed as I've looked at them before.

I agree they can be very useful, for example they tell you who owns the house, which in a lot of cases changes from a landlord in 1901 to the householder in 1911 because people got loans from the Land Commission to buy their farm between the two census.

Title: Re: Non-household census images are vanishing??
Post by: arkay on Friday 11 April 14 17:49 BST (UK)

Thanks for your reply, Sinann, but I didn't realize that you were talking about IRISH census records when I first saw this post!  Sorry!