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Title: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: Hendo on Thursday 03 April 14 23:41 BST (UK)
Hi
I have located a monument to the Charters family (on Laurieston maps), adjacent to Morrison (farm) on Kirk Road, to the East of Dornell Loch, Kirkcudbrightshire.  Can you suggest a way that I might get hold of an image of the monument or just the inscription?
Hope you can help.
Regards
Hendo
Title: Re: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: matt muir on Friday 04 April 14 14:43 BST (UK)
Hi Hendo,
I will be up in that area towards the end of April.
If you have had no success by then I will go there & take a photo for you.
Rgds Matt
Title: Re: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: Hendo on Friday 04 April 14 22:50 BST (UK)
Hi Matt
Thanks for the help with this.  If you could take a photo of the inscription/monument it would be great.  The Charters family has a very long history with the Balmaghie parish; I have been able to track back to the 1506 & the purchase of land (Duchrae).  There is also mention of John Charters (c 1809) at Morrison farm in the 1871 Balmaghie census (148 acres).  The monument appears to be on this land, further to the east.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Rob
Title: Re: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: clwyd2 on Tuesday 08 April 14 00:46 BST (UK)
Hi Matt
Thanks for the help with this.  If you could take a photo of the inscription/monument it would be great.  The Charters family has a very long history with the Balmaghie parish; I have been able to track back to the 1506 & the purchase of land (Duchrae).  There is also mention of John Charters (c 1809) at Morrison farm in the 1871 Balmaghie census (148 acres).  The monument appears to be on this land, further to the east.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Rob
I wonder if this is part of same family .clwyd2
Title: Re: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: Hendo on Tuesday 08 April 14 22:49 BST (UK)
Hi 'clwyd2'
Thanks for the grave stone pic of Alexander Charters (c1809-1890; if my interpretation is correct).  I haven't been able to make a connection with any Charters/Charteris family in Twynholm as yet.  According to the MIs for Twynholm, the only other Charters listed is Grace Charters (c1784- 1871), the wife of James McKie who died at Doon Cottage in Twynholm.
Regards
Rob
Title: Re: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: Hendo on Monday 28 April 14 09:17 BST (UK)
Hi Matt
If the offer still stands, I would appreciate the pics of the monument.
Best regards
Rob
Title: Re: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: matt muir on Wednesday 30 April 14 11:09 BST (UK)
Hi Rob,
In Scotland at the moment. Have been to the area & found the farm which is now a holiday home.
After climbing over some barbwire fences & up a hill I found the monument. about 12 ft high & 4 sides. No inscription and now well hidden from the road by gorse. Took a large number of photos of it,the farmhouse and general area. Went to the church yard which was closeby took pics of all headstone I could find with the name Charters.
Will be home Saturday & will forward all to you then.
Rgds Matt
Title: Re: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: Hendo on Wednesday 30 April 14 11:57 BST (UK)
Thanks Matt
You're a legend.  I appreciate all that you have done and I look forward to seeing your handiwork.  I am currently writing the family history (for my son & his offspring) & this will make an exciting anecdote to include in the Chartres chapter.  No names, no pack drill, of course!
Cheers
Rob
Title: Re: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: matt muir on Sunday 04 May 14 19:24 BST (UK)
Hi Rob,
Got all the pictures you need also the headstone's in Balmaghie Kirkyard.
I have listed below the full transcript of the one which refers to the Charters at Morrison farm....

In memory of John Charters,who died at Morrison,25th Feb'y 1808,aged 82 years.
Also Margaret Corsan,his spouse,who died 30th Apr.1809,aged 73 years.
Also Alexander Charters,their son,who died at Morrison,1st Jan'y, 1860 aged 84 years.
Also Jane Ireland, his wife, who died at the same place, 31st of Dec'y. 1859 aged 78 years.
Also John Charters, their son, who died at Bush A  Bield, on the 5th Dec 1886, aged 79 years.
Also Janet Riddick, his wife,who died at Bush A Bield on the 4th Feb, 1899, aged 79 years.
Also Margaret Charters,their daughter,who died at Bush A Bield, 18th April 1915 aged 61 years.
Also Alexander Charters,their son,who died at Kirklandhill, 5th May 1929, aged 76 years.

I have your email address  so will send everything on to you shortly.
Rgds  Matt.
Title: Re: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: Hendo on Monday 05 May 14 01:04 BST (UK)
Hi Matt
Thanks for the photos & for taking the time out to do it.  I have replied to you via my email but would like to publicly acknowledge your help & generosity with the Charters family research. 
Best regards
Rob
 
Title: Re: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: philmcmenemy on Sunday 22 January 23 10:21 GMT (UK)
Hiya all
interesting chat and thread.

We have lived in Laurieston for twenty years and walk and run the Kirk Road to the Balmaghie Kirk regularly.
We spotted the monument while running yesterday for the first time!
Will visit on our next walk. Tell me though which farm is 'Morrisons', please?

Regards phil 
Title: Re: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: matt muir on Wednesday 25 January 23 12:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Phil  welcome.
Going down the Kirk road away from the Kirk,you have the monument up the small hill on your left.
A short distace along is the farmhouse. It is now known as "Auchenhay". This name is (was) displayed on the steel farm gate at its entrance.

The monument was described as-- An indifferently erected stone pillar 11 feet high. On a stone at
its base  is the following inscription.
" John Charters built this Cairn
and left this place for Canada
N. America April 1836.  Repaired
by his father and this stone Lettered,
and put up Aug't 1843
in remembrance of him, "

I never saw the inscription as it must have been buried over time.
Hope this helps.
Rgds Matt.
Title: Re: Charters Monument, Kirk Road, parish of Balmaghie
Post by: philmcmenemy on Wednesday 25 January 23 12:41 GMT (UK)
Brilliant - thanks Matt!

So Auchenhay, now a holiday home I believe, was once Morrison farm.
What a fantastic aspect and context.

Regards
phil