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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: wilrob on Saturday 29 March 14 14:12 GMT (UK)
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this is starting a family tree from scratch there is not much know what i have is patrick hagan marrying a sara costello but i cannot find the marriage cert..they had a daughter kathleen hagan 1931 what we know is ireland and scotland is in the mix if anyone can help with sara and patrick it would be a start
thank you ???
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Putting Kathleens birth place, would be a good start,
Newcastle March 1931,
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Edward Hagan, mother Costello , Newcastle March 1928
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i shall re-write that thank you radcliff i found a marriage for edward hagan but as you say kathleen had a brother called edward so i shall check it out i think its edward as well for father not patrick...also sara is on the 1911 census in newcastle states she was born dundee ;D
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Thanks Wilrob,
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the marriage of edward hagan and sara (anne?)costello was 1908 thats a bit early ..think this going to be a mare said me kicking my self ::)
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can anyone make a connection with the costello record of 1911 living westgate newcastle ..there is a sara hagan with 2 children nora and julia rose hagan the puzzle is i have
saras children as
kathleen -1931
edward -1928
mary - 1920
sara a -1925
margaret -1936
is sara and edward married 1808ish would they still be having children as late as this,is nora and julia rose this families sisters the 1911 census is the only clue i have but edward isnt on it :-X
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Do you have the deaths of Patrick and Sarah as this may help establish possible births. :)
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no its edward as couldnt find a patrick marriage to sara thanks ???
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Found a couple more Hagan/Costello births in Newcastle:
Patrick Hagan Dec qtr 1912 Newcastle RD ref 10b 296, mother's maiden name Costello
Terence Hagan Jun qtr 1914 Newcastle rD ref 10b 166, same mother's maiden name
His possible death:
Terentius Hagan age 0 18 Jan 1915 Newcastle upon Tyne
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If we assume the Sarah married to Edward Hagan, who gave birth to Norah and Julia Rose also gave birth to the last one mentioned , Margaret in 1936, then she would have been 56 years old. I think the probabilities of this is minimal :-\
So to confirm we are now not looking for a marriage between Patrick Hagan and Sarah Costello but between Edward Hagan and Sarah Costello now?
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correct.. the only names i was given was kathleen then edward and kathleens mother was a sara costello and also irish scottish link not much to go off is it lol ;D initially patrick was a name given as father to kathleen and edward ???
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I think it's safe to assume that Edward was in the Navy?
Or else why was the first child born in Portsmouth? ;D
Births: December qtr 1910
Portsmouth district vol 2b, page 345
Hagan, Norah
September qtr 1908
Newcastle Upon Tyne district vol 10b, page 121
Hagan, Rose
I think it's probably best to buy one of the birth certificates of Kathleen or Edward.
Then you'll know for certain who the father is!! ;D
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I am researching the Hagan family of Wallsend, Northumberland. My research starts in the early 1800's. John Edward Hagan b.1853 Cramlington, Northumberland. Dating to 2012 Salisbury, England.
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Have costello in my family a john costello living at pilgrim street newcastle just wonder if its the same costello family as urs
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I've been doing some research on Patrick Hagan/Sarah Costello myself, it appears they're my great, great grandparents. I know this forum has been quiet for quite some time, but, I was wondering if anyone actually found anything further?
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For your Scottish/Irish link, my Costello's came from Co. Mayo to Newcastle, lots of kids, so probably everyone with a Costello in this thread is connected in some way.
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I have Costello in my family I’ve just noticed the Hagan name on your post which interests me I have a John costello from Newcastle he’s the step father of my gr gran Mary Jane yates on her wedding cert she has a Elizabeth Hagan as a witness wondering is she one of the Hagan s you mention.john Costello is living in the St. Andrews area of Newcastle.
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Hi David
This was a friends tree but certainly will try and find out for you :)
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I get the marriage certificate out and have another look it definitely mentions the witness as a hagan and am thinking was this the connection was this hagan formally a Costello .
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My Grandmother was Kathleen Hagan, child of Patrick & Sara Hagan