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Title: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: helior on Monday 24 March 14 16:53 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find any relatives of Flight Sergeant Tegwyn Roberts who was killed when the Lancaster he was in was shot down over Holland in 1944. Before going any further I would be grateful for any guidance on which is the best part of rootschat  to use and whether I need to consider such things as confidentiality
Helior
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 24 March 14 17:05 GMT (UK)
Hi

Is this the right Tegwyn?

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2940361/ROBERTS,%20TEGWYN

We cannot post details of any living relatives on the board but we can send you a pm with any relevant info to help in your search
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 24 March 14 17:13 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately the cwgc entry does not show his age when he died and there are a number of Tegwyn Roberts births
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: giblet on Monday 24 March 14 17:27 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately the cwgc entry does not show his age when he died


Flight Engineer Sergeant Tegwyn ROBERTS, 21 yr from Denbigh, Wales / UK,

http://www.oudzelhem.nl/oorlog/1944/omschrijving_historie2.htm
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 24 March 14 17:32 GMT (UK)
Brilliant - thanks Giblet

This must be his birth

Births March qtr 1924   
Tegwyn Roberts - mothers maiden name - Williams  St.Asaph    11b   509
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: giblet on Monday 24 March 14 17:36 GMT (UK)
Been 21 and his parents are noted on the cwgc i would say he was single. If he was married his wife would have been noted on the cwgc as well.
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 24 March 14 17:47 GMT (UK)
I agree - having a problem tracing his parents marriage at the moment.  All the marriage would establish is the date from which to start looking for sibling births

However - even if found - looking for Roberts births with mmn Williams in St Asaph throws up far too many matches to know whether any were his siblings

There is no parental marriage within a year or so of Tegwyn's birth

Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 24 March 14 18:03 GMT (UK)
This is the only marriage I can find but it was a long time before Tegwyn's birth and father is not Morris so I'm not confident it's the right one

Marriages June qtr 1901   

Robert Maurice Roberts    St. Asaph    11b   599   
Margaret Williams     
 
There is always the possibility that Margaret was previously married in which case she will not have married as Williams
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: wrjones on Monday 24 March 14 18:37 GMT (UK)
There aren't many possibilities for Tegwyn's parents marriage,all things being equal.Though outside the area,I can only offer a Morris Roberts to a Maggie Williams at Pwllheli Caernarvonshire in 1923.

Regards
William Russell Jones.
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 24 March 14 18:39 GMT (UK)
That's a much likelier bet that one in 1901
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: giblet on Monday 24 March 14 19:55 GMT (UK)
The below link only goes up to 1919 online for Welsh newspapers but they could be worth contacting to see if they have any family notices for Tegwyn's death in 1944. Family notices can sometimes be full of names of other family members.

http://www.llgc.org.uk/index.php?id=4723
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: helior on Tuesday 25 March 14 17:23 GMT (UK)
Thanks to all those who have responded to my request. I have all the relevant information about my Tegwyn Roberts. I got the birth dates from Free BMD -1st quarter 1924 but this does not give me the exact date. All I'm trying to do is to see if any surviving relatives are around. Tegwyn himself would be 90 this year if he was still alive. The crash took place over Holland 23/24 September 1944. The plane still had some unexploded ammunition on board when it was shot down so there was precious little human remains - although some Dutchmen who unearthed the aircraft found some human remains. They are putting together and exhibition in Holland later this year. They have managed to contact surviving relatives of five of the crew but so far have failed with remaining two including Tegwyn's.
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: HolymoleyRE on Friday 24 May 19 22:34 BST (UK)
Hello Helior,

I am interested in this thread, as I am also trying to find relatives of the lost crew on behalf of someone else, would be interested to know which crew you have relatives for?

I too am looking for those Tegwyn Roberts, and Thomas Brown.

Regards

AM
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: helior on Saturday 25 May 19 15:48 BST (UK)
Thanks for your message. I do not know of any existing relatives. I believe Tegwyn aka Tecwyn had a brother David, two sisters Mary and Annie- I think I'm correct about this last name. I'm almost sure that there was an older brother but have no details. Tecwyn and his family lived next door to my grandparents here in Denbigh, North Wales. This would have been during the years 1937 till about late
early 1950's. If you are interested I can send you a photo of Tecwyn in uniform.
Iori Jones
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: HolymoleyRE on Saturday 25 May 19 16:12 BST (UK)
Hello Lori,

Many thanks for the reply, I have Tegwyns birth as 13th April 1925 in St Asaph, I note on the thread 1924 is mentioned however there is a death of a Tegwyn Roberts in St Asaph dated 1924 also aged 0.

The Mother's maiden of 1925 Tegwyn name is Evans, I have tracked the father Morris b1883 and  mother Margaret (Maggie) b1886 on the 1939 Register as living at Castle View Estate Denbigh, this is the last known address.

If this address matches with you we may well have Siblings to track, as there is a redacted entry on the 39 Register.

The organisation I am researching for works in conjunction with the CWGC.

If I can find a relative for Tegwyn, then Thomas Brown is the only man left... There is a family tree with relatives of his potential wife Hilda Sephton on it...

Regards

Andy
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: HolymoleyRE on Saturday 25 May 19 16:13 BST (UK)
A photo would be great...

Andy
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: helior on Saturday 25 May 19 16:57 BST (UK)
Hello Andy
Can you let me have your email address then I can forward a photo. My email address is:

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Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: HolymoleyRE on Saturday 25 May 19 17:34 BST (UK)
Don't think I can send an email.. Are you on Facebook Book, I have a page on there. Not Forgotten Medal and WW1 Research.
Title: Re: Relatives of airman killed in WW2
Post by: sarah on Saturday 25 May 19 17:56 BST (UK)
Your email was removed because it is never safe to exchange email addresses in a public manner on any website. The safe way to do this is as suggested by using the private message option - it is the round dark button beneath the users profile name. Images can also be attached to posts to using the attach button.

Regards

Sarah