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Title: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
Post by: philjo on Sunday 23 March 14 18:46 GMT (UK)

I have an entry from the 1851 census for Edward Evans.
He would be born approx 1798 but I can't identify the exact birthplace from the 1851 census entry (in Habberley, Shropshire) I have attached the birthplace entry image below. I would be grateful if anyone could suggest where this is.
The nearest I could match is Montgomeryshire LLangyniew. (though the ending looks like "ion" in the census image)
According to a marriage certificate for his 2nd marriage in 1865  (at the age of 67) his father was Evan Evans, Flannel Weaver
Incidentally I could not find Edward on the 1861 census and the 1871 entry not very helpfully says he was born in "Wales" so this is the only cenus I have showing a birthplace.

Many thanks,
Jeremy

Title: Re: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
Post by: wrjones on Sunday 23 March 14 21:02 GMT (UK)

What was his first wife's name?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Title: Re: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
Post by: wrjones on Sunday 23 March 14 22:01 GMT (UK)

I'm not finding the 1851 entry in Shropshire?Give details of the entry please?

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Title: Re: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
Post by: wrjones on Sunday 23 March 14 22:43 GMT (UK)

Well its no wonder I couldn't find the 1851 entry as stated in Shropshire,the entry is showing in Habberley Montgomeryshire!
HO107/2498/395/16.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Title: Re: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
Post by: wrjones on Monday 24 March 14 00:11 GMT (UK)

Whilst it could well be Llangyniew,the enumerator must have thought there was an ink shortage!He has sought to write as small as possible!

Regards
William Russell Jones.

Title: Re: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
Post by: despair on Monday 24 March 14 18:23 GMT (UK)

There is the following possibility:

There is an Evan Evans-Hand Loom Weaver(Flannel),widower in the 1851 census at Caersws

HO107  2496  434  2

This could well be him in 1841-Woollen Weaver at Llanlllugan

HO107  1440  7/7  8

There is then this baptism for Edward Evans at Llanllugan in late 1795

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KC1N-KJC

There is a property called Rhosydd Gwynion in Llanllugan.None of this a perfect match but worth considering.

Regards
Roger

Title: Re: Edward Evans - Where is this birthplace?
Post by: philjo on Monday 24 March 14 21:56 GMT (UK)

Thanks for your replies.
sorry - I omitted the 1851 census reference. I think Habberley did change county at least once - parts of it were either side of the border at that time.
The Caersws entry could be interesting - I know from a potted chapel history that Edward was preaching at the chapel in Caersws around 1830 before he moved to Shropshire in 1832/3 to become the Baptist Minister.
I'll check out the LLanllugan entries.
Jeremy