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Title: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: Justanothersmith on Monday 17 March 14 13:05 GMT (UK)
G'day

Trying to find out more about a Caroline Scholey who was transported to Tasmania in 1849. She was at the Cascades Female Factor. According to Tasmanian records she married a James Quiet in 1854. Then it comes to a grinding halt. Nothing. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: giblet on Tuesday 18 March 14 07:39 GMT (UK)
Any ideas?

Yep i have a idea  ;D

All the transcribed stuff online has Jame's last name as Quiet. I have my doubts as when looking at a copy of the originals it doesnt look like a T at the end of his surname  ???
Im attaching 2 small pieces that i looked at.

Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: giblet on Tuesday 18 March 14 07:40 GMT (UK)
WOW  :o I said i was attaching 2 small pieces, they didnt turn out real small tho  ::)
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: Jennaya on Tuesday 18 March 14 07:57 GMT (UK)
Looks like Quief

Although I have not heard of that name!
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: giblet on Tuesday 18 March 14 08:07 GMT (UK)
Looks like Quief

Although I have not heard of that name!


Does look like a f doesnt it.
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: wivenhoe on Tuesday 18 March 14 08:47 GMT (UK)

Maybe .uiess  (f   being   ss) The .uief looks the same from the two different sources.  Is the first letter a Q?. Don't know..anyone seeing it as anything other than Q?

There is a James TWISS around at the time, but I cannot see the first letter being T.
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: giblet on Tuesday 18 March 14 09:10 GMT (UK)
It looks nothing like a Q to me.

I dont think his name is Quiet which is probably why the poster cant find them after the marriage.
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: giblet on Tuesday 18 March 14 09:35 GMT (UK)
I found his name again in Caroline's record. He was noted as been drunk and fined on the 24 Oct 1854. Might see if i can find the newspaper article  ;D

Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 18 March 14 10:05 GMT (UK)
I can understand why some (possibly younger  ;D) people  may not see the first letter as Q
However, I feel certain that it is Q
The form, which is clearer on the second snip, is one which was used at one time during my time at school and it resembles a large numeral 2
Sue
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: giblet on Tuesday 18 March 14 10:12 GMT (UK)
Looks like Quief

Although I have not heard of that name!


OH look what i found  :o

Tasmania convicts
57921   Quief James   25 Aug 1846   Lord Auckland (2)   19 Apr 1846   Dublin

I'll see if i can find more to either confirm or eliminate him.
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: SASHAR on Tuesday 18 March 14 10:34 GMT (UK)
Cornwall chronicle Launceston - 30.11.1853 - TROVE

Certificate of Freedom
James Quief, Lord Auckland 2

Regards,
Sashar
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: SASHAR on Tuesday 18 March 14 10:47 GMT (UK)
James QUIEF was sentenced at Cork in 1845, arrived 1846, sent to work on probation gang.
He was born 1822, sentenced for 7 yrs for desertion from the 16th Regiment.    Admitted 1.11.1845 to Dublin Smithfield Prison.

Sashar
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: giblet on Tuesday 18 March 14 10:59 GMT (UK)
Wonder if we will be able to prove if Quiet and Quief are the same person  ???

Im not finding much at all.

It doesnt help that the name Quief can be spelt a few different ways  ::)
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: Justanothersmith on Tuesday 18 March 14 13:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the assist people. It's taken me the best part of a decade to trace any of the comings and goings of my 2xgreat grandmother's siblings so when I fluked on Caroline [I actually googled another of her sisters Charlotte whose name it seems was tattooed on Caroline's arm] I didn't expect too much. Anyway I've got some more Scholeys to add to the tree as I didn't have some of the siblings identified on her records. Maybe I'll get lucky again in another 10 years.
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: cando on Wednesday 19 March 14 04:03 GMT (UK)
What about the surname QUAIF/E from England and it is possibly QUAID/E from Ireland. 

Cando
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: Justanothersmith on Saturday 22 March 14 13:16 GMT (UK)
Found a reference to a James Quaife, as a witness at an inquest, in New Norfolk 1888. Given that Carline got married in New Norfolk he may be the right one or a direct relation. Still chipping away at this one.
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Saturday 22 March 14 21:51 GMT (UK)
Found a reference to a James Quaife, as a witness at an inquest, in New Norfolk 1888. Given that Carline got married in New Norfolk he may be the right one or a direct relation.

Death:

QUALFE James d. 22/05/1903 Charitable Institution NEW TOWN #305

Burial at Cornelian Bay Cemetery:

James QUAIFE 86yrs, Pauper, NEW TOWN  23/05/1903 Section:B; Site number:44

http://server2.admin.millingtons.com.au:81/ASP/search_details.asp?RecordID=13451

Age is a good match to the convict.
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Saturday 22 March 14 22:32 GMT (UK)
The Burial Order for James QUAIFE appears that it's convict James QUIEF:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ylu/
Title: Re: Caroline Scholey / James Quiet
Post by: Justanothersmith on Sunday 23 March 14 07:31 GMT (UK)
Thanks. That's helped solve the surname problem but unfortunately I'm still stuck with the Catherine conundrum. Can't seem to find her after the marriage.

C'est la vie