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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: meles on Sunday 16 March 14 17:56 GMT (UK)
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Hi - I've not been on here for some time, as my research has come to a halt. Well, a pause, anyway. Brick walls everywhere. But I've done well, and got back a long way on most of my lines. But after a year of putting my research on the back burner, I'm hoping to make some progress now.
One line that has frustrated me is Charles Brock, b. 31.7.1850 in Row 130, Gt Yarmouth. He's in the 1851 Census - King Street, Yarmouth (just down the road), but that's it. No death that I can find. And nothing after.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
meles
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Have you found his parents, George and Elizabeth after 1851 - I can't see them at the moment?
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Yes, Elizabeth.
Missing in 1861, but moved to Westminster in 1871 and to be found there until their deaths.
I think the 1861 may be the key...
meles
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Have you discounted this death?
Charles Brock
Jan-Feb-Mar 1861
Yarmouth Norfolk
Volume: 4b Page: 18
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on excellent suggestion, groom, but I got the death certificate.
He is the grandson of Charles' father, and the son of George. Died 3 weeks old, poor little thing.
meles
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Do you know when they moved to Westminster? Have you discounted the 1863 death in Westminster?
Nanny Jan
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No, I don't know when they arrived in Westminster.
The 1863 death is Charles, son of George and Mary Ann (nee Grimmer). George is son of George William.
Another premature death - he was 11 months old. Probably of a disease related to syphilis, related to his mother. So many of her children died very young.
But thanks for looking - I find another's eyes so useful. I hope you don't think I'm dismissing your suggestions.
meles
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So am I right in thinking you don't have any of the family in 1861? If not, I guess it is either a bad transcription or perhaps a missing census page. That still wouldn't explain where he got to after that though would it?
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Spot on, groom. An annoying gap...
I've tried different spellings for 1861. No success. I wonder if they were actually moving from Norfolk to London on Census day...
And as you say, it still does not explain what happened to Charles after. He was too young to go abroad...
Thanks for looking. Much appreciated.
meles
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I should have known that you would have checked the Westminster one....... :-[
I think FindMyPast have a list of missing census areas.
Nanny Jan
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Hello, Nanny - long time, no see! Nice to see my old (by which I mean people I chatted to in the past here!) friends still helping.
meles
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I think FindMyPast have a list of missing census areas.
I was thinking that, NJ. Looking at the 1851, Kings Street seems to have been quite a long road and covers several pages. However on the 1861 it is much shorter and appears to be mostly shops and businesses.
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Hello, Nanny - long time, no see! Nice to see my old (by which I mean people I chatted to in the past here!) friends still helping.
meles
I possibly qualify as old in another sense as well ............. ;) Trying the keep the old grey cells ticking over.....
Nanny Jan
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;) ;D
meles
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In the "known issues" section of FindMyPast 1861 census it shows that some of Yarmouth is missing.
I have a family missing in 1861 in an area of Woolwich.....which also has "known issues"....... ::)
Nanny Jan
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Sooo - it's possible that the family's records are missing in 1861 from Yarmouth.
But - assuming he died there - Charles' death also?
Which would explain things.
meles
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I suppose that his death record could have gone missing when sent to GRO......or a clerk turned over 2 pages or missed a line or two.
Burial registers could help but where............ a mini break in Yarmouth with a day or two in the archives?
Nanny Jan
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I cant see him in the NBI either.
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Ho hum. Thanks for looking. A real mystery, this one.
I'll put it down to "abducted by aliens" and try again in another year.
There has to be an explanation... it's the one recent branch of my tree that has stumped (ho ho ho) me...
meles