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Title: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: kiminohio on Saturday 15 March 14 19:45 GMT (UK)
I'm trying to find who the parents of Amos Hilton were.  Amos was b.4 Jun 1786 in Lancashire, but later settled in Barnsley.  I think he died in 1868, at least one child was married at St. George's, so possibly they have his death cert.  Would this have his parents names?  Also, would there be an obituary at this time?
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: carolanne on Saturday 15 March 14 22:52 GMT (UK)
There is a baptism that matches that birth record so I can't say for sure that this is correct
Amos Hilton baptised 4 June 1786 St Mary Prestwich Lancashire
Parents
James & Ann Hilton
There is a death in Barnsley in 1868 I doubt it would have his parents named on the death cert, there is a marriage listed in 1807 to a Elizabeth Hall witnesses were William Thompson & Frank Gothard these early marriages didn't have the fathers name listed.
Regards Carolanne
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 15 March 14 22:57 GMT (UK)
Hi

That baptism looks to be correct, the transcript says the family were living in 'WHITEFIELD'.

claire
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 15 March 14 23:09 GMT (UK)
Looks to be a large family

SAMUEL chr. 15 Jan 1769 St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich
ALICE      "    13 May 1770      "                        "
JOHN       "     5 Apr 1772       "                        "
NATHAN         26 Jun 1774
ISAAC     "    11 Feb 1776
ANN        "    22 Nov 1778     "                         "
JOHN      "     1 Aug 1780      "                         "
JAMES    "     5 Nov 1782
SIMEON  "     25 Jul 1784      "                          "
CISLEY   "    31 Oct 1790       "                         "
SALLY    "     1 Mar 1795       "                          "

all list abode as WHITEFIELD

Think this is the parents marriage

9 Aug 1768 St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich
James Hilton and Ann Kellett both of Whitefield
Witnesses: George Astley and Thomas Ogden.

claire

Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: ..claire.. on Saturday 15 March 14 23:16 GMT (UK)
Hi

Have looked in the newspapers what I can find but can see no obit in that timeframe. However did he have a son (probably too young) or nephew Amos ? There is an Amos Hilton of Barnsley being convicted of thieving in 1826 aged 26 and transported for 7 years.

claire
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: kiminohio on Sunday 16 March 14 18:01 GMT (UK)
I'm still not sure of parents...thanks for all the replies!  I have James & Ann Ketlett AND James & Ann Rothwell....I would like to know which James & Ann belong to Amos.  Amos never had a son Amos, that I can find from the census'.  Amos & Elizabeth Hull Hilton had a dau., Hannah who married George Wood from Barnsley, Yorkshire in 1835 at St. George's church.
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: ..claire.. on Sunday 16 March 14 18:51 GMT (UK)
Hi

I see your problem with the couples, the only difference between them is the marriage of James H and Ann Kellet, their parish is listed as Whitefield. The marriage of James Hilton and Ann Rothwell both list their parish as Oldham within the parish of Prestwich.

Not much in it at all  :-\

claire

Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: carolanne on Sunday 16 March 14 21:28 GMT (UK)
Unless a family member can come up with a family bible I think the choice is going to be hard the 1861 census says born Whitfield Lancashire sometimes you have to go with your gut feeling.
Regards Carolanne
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: kiminohio on Sunday 16 March 14 21:34 GMT (UK)
So, you would more likely think James & Ann Ketlett?..
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: carolanne on Sunday 16 March 14 22:09 GMT (UK)
Yes that would be my choice but its your tree your choice.
Regards Carolanne
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: carolanne on Sunday 16 March 14 22:25 GMT (UK)
Do you have all the children born to Amos & Elizabeth.
Regards Carolanne
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: kiminohio on Monday 17 March 14 01:54 GMT (UK)
The children I have listed for Amos & Elizabeth Hull Hilton are; Ann 1809, William 1811, Sarah 1813, Hannah 1817, John 1821, Mary 1823, Joseph 1826 and Alice 1830.  So far, I can only find that Hannah came to the US and stayed. Alice married William Ryder, moved to Penn, USA for a while...I think William died and she moved back to Yorkshire.  I haven't found any evidence that the others went to the Us
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: carolanne on Monday 17 March 14 09:53 GMT (UK)
Those are the names in the Baptisms I found as well, I also think that Elizabeth's surname is Hall rather than Hull I can't find a baptism in the area for a Elizabeth Hull but there's one that would fit for a Elizabeth Hall born 21 April 1784 baptised 25 April 1784 All Saints Darton  father John of Mapplewell (next village) occupation Carpenter.
If your interested I've found the burials for Amos & Elizabeth in Barnsley Cemetery
Amos Hilton age 82 of Taylor Row buried 12 July 1868 section N plot 324
Elizabeth Hilton age 79 of Taylor Row buried 13 March 1864 section N plot 184
Regards Carolanne
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: kiminohio on Monday 17 March 14 13:15 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much, Carolanne!  that fills in some blanks!  Does anyone have any suggestions about how to know exactly who George Wood's parents were.  I can't find an obit for George, who died in Penn., USA in 1885.  When I looked at baptism records several years ago, I could only find George that seemed to belong to Joseph & Elizabeth, with the occupation for Joseph being WIRE DRAWER.
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: carolanne on Monday 17 March 14 22:13 GMT (UK)
I've had a look and if we presume that George was born around the same time as Hannah I can only see the same as you maybe somebody else can find it.
Regards Carolanne
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: ..claire.. on Tuesday 18 March 14 22:42 GMT (UK)
Hi

You are definitely right about his parents being Joseph and Elizabeth, on here he gives his D.O.B as 28 Dec. 1816 England

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=wood&GSfn=george&GSbyrel=all&GSdy=1885&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=14538828&df=all&

On the images on Anc* it gives his birthdate 28 Dec. 1816 and baptised 19 Jan 1817 son of Joseph and Elizabeth.

claire
Title: Re: AMOS HILTON, Barnsley - who are his parents?
Post by: kiminohio on Wednesday 19 March 14 00:13 GMT (UK)
yes, that is the info that I have.  I have his name as George D. Wood - I don't know what the D is - but his first 2 children were named Joseph and Elizabeth, so I don't know if his grandpa could have also been George.  Does anyone have any ideas about "proving" parentage(like George's mother's maiden name)?