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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: houseofbrown on Tuesday 11 March 14 21:21 GMT (UK)
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I have been trying, without success, to locate the birthplace of my 2xggrandfather, William Goode.
This is about as much as I have been able to find:
Born: England (or perhaps Scotland?_ between 1808 & 1815 (Death records state he was 50 at dod, whereas headstone states he was 57)
Married: 1850 in Adelaide, SA to Jane Nichol Anderson (who was born in Scotland)
Died: 1865 in Port Lincoln, SA.
I have been unable to locate him on any passenger lists of people coming to SA.
Any assistance would be much appreciated.
Bill.
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Hi, Any idea as to what your William was doing for a living while in Australia, it may help in locating his place of birth.
Did william and his wife have any children if so therir names may help in identifying him. according to the 1841 census. England Wales and Scotland there were 245 William Goode's and they come from all over ::)
There are quite a few born around the timeframe you have down.
Neil
MODIFIED..... meant to ask if you have his DC that should give how long in Colony and give an indication of when he arrived.
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He is no relation to the William Goode of Port Pirie? 1841 to 1910?
Neil
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A Possible?
FROM TROVE Newspapers. South Australian (Adelaide, SA : 1844 - 1851)
Friday 6th July 1849
Same day—The brig Halcyon, 174 tons, Tulloch, from Launceston. Passengers—Mr and Mrs Gould, Mr and Mrs T. Vearings, Mrs Cock and three children, Messrs Stace, George Wright, Ferguson Phillips, Charles Smith, William Goods, and Wm. McPie.
Neil
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This is an account of the accident which caused his death (in case you don't have it)
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article41032082 Doesn't mention his place of birth.
regards,
Ros
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MODIFIED..... meant to ask if you have his DC that should give how long in Colony and give an indication of when he arrived.
Sadly that information is not included in South Australian Death certificates in 1865.
Ages on headstone may be incorrect depending on the knowledge of the person who placed it. Does it look a very old headstone. It may have been placed by descendants.
Hasn't been identified by the compilers of the Biographical Index of SA in the shipping lists.
GOODE William born c1808 died 7 Aug 1865
Buried Boonindie SA
Lived White River
Death Reg
GOODE William
7 Sep 1865 50 years Status not recorded Relative not recorded
Residence: Whites River Death Place Tiatukia Port Lincoln Fli S* 21/314
Symbol S* includes unusual information including Unusual Death or amount of information on circumstances of Death.
South Australian Register 2 Oct 1865
PORT LINCOLN
[From our own Correspondent ]
Port Lincoln. September 26
I am sorry to have to report the death of another of our respected residents, Mr. William Goode, who was proceeding to Mr. Jas. Anderson's station, driving a horse and cart. Having to pass a very bad sideling, which is quite unavoidable and dangerous to travel over, the cart appeared to have capsized, throwing the deceased's head on a large stone; and the cart falling over, must have crushed the head between the stone and the cart causing almost instantaneous death. An inquest was held on the 8th, when the evidence went to show the accident was quite accidental, and the Jury gave in their verdict accordingly. I may mention the deceased was very much respected by all who knew him, and leaves a widow and young family to mourn their loss. When we have had a few more such accidents I expect our roads will be made, verifying the old proverb, ' When the horse is gone lock the stable door.' There is no doubt had the road been made passable even, the deceased might still have been alive. I trust, as it is some time since the road was laid out that the work: may be proceeded with. There are numbers of men out of employ in the district who are eagerly waiting the work to commence.
Cando
Apologies Ros your link wasn't there when I started research.
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Convict named William GOODE to VDL.
Arrived 26 Oct 1838 on the ship Coromandel (2) from Sheerness.
GOODS W Passenger Halcyon 23 Jun 1849 from Launceston to Adelaide
Arrived ship Coromandel. Free by servitude.
Essie
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Neil: He was working as a farmer at Port Lincoln at time of death.
Children - Sarah, Charles William & William Edward.
Not sure if related to the Goode from Pt Pirie.
Interesting that there was a William Goods travelling from Launceston - May be a spelling
error and perhaps he was previously a convict. (Would explain why he's not on passenger
lists!)
Rosball: I have actually read this report before but thanks anyway.
Cando: Thank you for replying once again to one of my queries.
I have seen the headstone and it looks very old but as you say, mistakes can be made.
Many thanks to you all.
Bill
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Thank you Essie - our comments crossed. I reckon the possibility grandpa was a convict is worth perusing further. Thank you.
Bill
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Not sure if related to the Goode from Pt Pirie.
Search digitised newspapers for news items and a very long winded memorial service in 1910 ::).
Cando
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Search for any convict records...only two Wm GOODE's. I don't have time today read the digitised files.
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=11
I also wondered if his marriage to Jane in 1850 was a second one in the light he was born c1815 according to the death reg. Not everyone from Tasmania was a convict :). Many free settlers moved to the mainland when land was made available in Vic and SA. It is also possible that this Wm GOODE boarded the ship in Melbourne. The "From Launceston" is simply the origin of the voyage. It is possible that the ship called in at the Ports of Melbourne or Geelong, Belfast, [Port Fairy]/Portland/Robe etc. Many coastal vessels carried cargo.
Did Jane remarry?
Cando
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Would explain why he's not on passenger
lists!)
Survival rate for passenger lists in South Australia is poor. Not all coastal traders were required to lodge passenger manifests especially prior to ?1852. Wm may have arrived in South Australia as an unassisted passenger and there is possibly no record other than X number of males in steerage. I'm sure someone else can add to this.
Cando
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A couple of online trees suggest William GOODE was born in Northumberland and his wife [photo] was born Scotland. Possibly you are aware of this however may help if you are searching convict records.
Cando
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Another possibility to explore :)
http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=91
GOODE William Castle Eden 25 Oct 1845 11th Regt CSO92/1/15 P67
Cando
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Obviously late to the party.
I've been investigating same guy and his arrival to Australia.
I found records of Castle Eden too. The W Goode there was a part of the 11th Regiment that arrived in Tasmania then some went to Sydney. It seems like he was an Ensign then got promoted to Leiutenant. I've found a few mentioned of Lt Goode in various shipping notices around the place. and potentially mention of the 11th being in Adelaide (although not specifically W Goode) ....I'm working on the timeline of all these mentions but so far its quite close to late 1840s so running out of time to get to SA and meet J N Anderson....
Edit. This is all from trove articles btw.
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A couple of online trees suggest William GOODE was born in Northumberland and his wife [photo] was born Scotland. Possibly you are aware of this however may help if you are searching convict records.
Cando
I see that too, but no idea where it comes from. Seems very speculative when there doesn't even seem to be any proof of how he got to Aus or much of a biographical detail apart from a birthday range 1808-1815
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Some snippets, given that the date of birth is unsure:
New South Wales And Tasmania: Settlers And Convicts 1787-1859
William Goode, 20, per ship Surry,
Year of arrival: 1834
Tried at: Middlesex
Name and place of master to whom assigned: W T Jamieson. Liverpool
Same person:
New South Wales, Australia, Convict Indents, 1788-1842 for William Goode, Annotated Printed Indentures, 1834
William GOODE, 18, can read and write, protestant, single,
Native place: London
Occupation: arnotto manufacturer
Tried Middlesex for 'stealing arnotto', 2 January 1834 - transportation 7 years
Dark pale complexion, brown eyes, brown hair, scars: right thumb, forefinger left hand, right shin
I'd never heard of Arnotto/annotto. It's apparently A red or yellowish-red dyeing material, prepared from the pulp surrounding the seeds of a tree (Bixa orellana) belonging to the tropical regions of America. It is used for coloring cheese, butter, etc. from https://www.wordnik.com/words/annotto Very exotic! Another reference suggests it may be used in incense.
There is an account of his trial here: https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/record/t18340102-116
There's this reference from the Tasmanian Names Index:
https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=goode&rw=12&isd=true
Goode, William
Record Type: Convicts
Ship: Louisa
Remarks:
To NSW per Surrey 1834. Reconvicted as Henry Hill
Index number: 80343
Record ID: NAME_INDEXES:1395823
I am not familiar with Tasmanian records so can't figure this one out at all!!
There's also this man in Tasmania - and there are other records for him
Tasmania, Australia, Convict Court and Selected Records, Register
Comprehensive register of convicts (CORE SERIES) A - L, 1841-1845
William GOODE, tried Warwick Assizes (Coventry), 5 August, 1837, sentenced transportation life, crime: robbery
Judith
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Thanks Judith, the possiblity of him coming to Australia as a convict is a strong one imo. The good part of that is that there extensive records kept! I saw a while ago some dual name listing for William Goode/Henry Hill... strange. I hadnt looked into it more due to the term being life making it less likely he was out and in Adelaide in time to get married.