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Title: COLMAN? Baptisms in St. Andrew, Thorpe-next-Norwich
Post by: supermoussi on Tuesday 11 March 14 21:10 GMT (UK)

If anyone going to the Norfolk RO has a few minutes to spare could they please check the following two baptisms that are listed on the IGI:-

John Colman bapt: 12 Nov 1759  St. Andrew, Thorpe-next-Norwich s. of John & Sarah   
Edmund Colman   bapt: 12 Nov 1759 St. Andrew, Thorpe-next-Norwich s. of John & Sarah

What I am interested in is whether the spelling of the surname is absolutely 100% certain or could they have been mistranscribed slightly, i.e., could they be Cotman?

Thanks  :)

Title: Re: COLMAN? Baptisms in St. Andrew, Thorpe-next-Norwich
Post by: berkeley on Wednesday 12 March 14 00:21 GMT (UK)

                           Hi, try this http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yei/ it is Colman there, Dave.

Title: Re: COLMAN? Baptisms in St. Andrew, Thorpe-next-Norwich
Post by: supermoussi on Wednesday 12 March 14 07:07 GMT (UK)

Thanks Dave, but not sure that it is.

If you compare the way the "t" is written in the word "the" with the way the "l" or "t" in Colman/Cotman is written they are the same, i.e. it is a straight line up with a diagonal leaving it slanting upwards.

Also look across the page at the way the "t" is written in Elizabeth Samsom. That looks more like an "l than a "t" surely?

Title: Re: COLMAN? Baptisms in St. Andrew, Thorpe-next-Norwich
Post by: Yorkslass on Wednesday 12 March 14 12:58 GMT (UK)

Hi all,

When I first looked at the register entry, I thought it was Colman too ... now I'm not so sure.

Had a look at the Bishops Transcripts for Thorpe next Norwich, and although I couldn't find these two baptisms, I did find a marriage between a John Cotman and Sarah Kedd/Redd in 1755

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yeq/

Yorkslass

Title: Re: COLMAN? Baptisms in St. Andrew, Thorpe-next-Norwich
Post by: The Yokel on Wednesday 12 March 14 20:31 GMT (UK)

For what it's worth, I think it is Cotman

if you look Elizabeth Carter below your Cotman, the cross on the t goes straight into the e and the l in elizabeth joins the i at the bottom.

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yokel

Title: Re: COLMAN? Baptisms in St. Andrew, Thorpe-next-Norwich
Post by: supermoussi on Thursday 13 March 14 09:17 GMT (UK)

Thanks Yorklass and Yokel.  :)

The John Cotman & Sarah Redd marriage is definitely Cotman so that pretty much proves it to me, although the baptisms are 50/50. It makes you wonder how many Cotman BMDs have similarly been poorly written and mistranscribed as Colman?

btw I don't suppose anyone knows whether there are wills for John or Sarah (either as Cotman or Colman)? The marriage was by License and having some idea of John's profession would help confirm it was the correct guy.