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Title: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: zeel4321 on Tuesday 11 March 14 10:09 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the birth/baptism of John Rutter LAMB c 1772.   I know he married Selina Pbillips in Clerkenwell, London in 1798 (his given abode as Manchester).   He died 1824 in Manchester.   Occupation Mercer.
I have looked for a LAMB/RUTTER marriage but the only one I found was in Kent 1759 but no son John sadly.
Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks Wilma
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: Radcliff on Tuesday 11 March 14 13:44 GMT (UK)
John Butler Lamb
aged 52 years,
buried , 15th March 1824
abode Marsden St,
St Mary , Manchester,

is this your John Rutter Lamb,

George Lamb and Thomas, sons of John Rutter Lamb and Selina, buried here also in 1803 and 1808
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: zeel4321 on Tuesday 11 March 14 14:02 GMT (UK)
Yes thank you this is John Rutter Lamb.  I have a copy of his burial entry which was transcribed as Butter but actually reads as Rutter.   
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: mosiefish on Tuesday 11 March 14 14:58 GMT (UK)
I have been trying to follow a George (Rutter) Lamb who interesting married a Lydia Phillips in 1800 also at St. James Clerkenwell. The witnesses are the same as on John Rutter Lambs marriage.  Was she Selina`s sister?  He died in 1850 aged 77 so don`t know where he was born either. He was not born in county on the 1841 Middlesex census.  HO107/720/1 folio 5 page 5.
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: zeel4321 on Tuesday 11 March 14 15:16 GMT (UK)
Wow this sounds interesting especially as John named his son George.  Pity George couldn't have made it to 1851 census!!
 I will try and follow it up.

Thanks a lot
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: zeel4321 on Tuesday 11 March 14 15:44 GMT (UK)
I have found Lydia's baptism in Clerkenwell and can confirm she is Selina's sister (Selina bap. 1780)

At least we can assume that John Rutter Lamb and George were brothers - if we can find them

Wilma
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: MB on Thursday 27 March 14 16:46 GMT (UK)
John baptised 5 May 1771; George - 30 Jan 1777
at St Mary and St Stephen Wolsingham Durham
dad = John LAMB mum = Margaret RUTTER [I believe not married]
back tracked from John LAMB of Stockton's will, probate 30 Mar 1787 London
Regards M
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: mosiefish on Thursday 27 March 14 17:49 GMT (UK)
The will explains it all  :)  he even states that they were to take the surname of Lamb.

Thank you for letting us know.

Mo
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: zeel4321 on Thursday 27 March 14 18:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks from me too.

Wilma
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: L Fletch3 on Tuesday 11 April 23 13:42 BST (UK)
This is very useful thank you, as John Rutter Lamb is my 6th GG I’m still trying to find his father Johns father + mother. My link is the Woodall family. Mums side.
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 12 April 23 13:56 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat L Fletch3.

Hopefully those related on this query will answer you.

Margaret RUTTER buried 03 Aug 1796, St Mary and St Stephen, Wolsingham, Durham
Age 52, abode Wolsingham, Spinster
(birth c 1744)

John LAMB buried 28 Dec 1786, 28 Dec 1786, St Thomas a Becket, Stockton-on-Tees, Durham
Notes Gentleman
No age given

Both on FreeREG

Trish :)
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: AlanBoyd on Wednesday 12 April 23 14:14 BST (UK)
Just to add a small detail about the baptism of John Rutter in 1771: the DRO transcription has “Margaret Rutter (formerly of Stockton-on-Tees)”
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: L Fletch3 on Wednesday 12 April 23 18:34 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 13 April 23 12:14 BST (UK)
Re John Lamb;

As burial does not have an age we are only guessing when he was born.

So a range of 1721-1750 is possible.

Also we have no idea if he was actually born in Durham.

But I am going to go with what I have found.

A JAMES Lamb was bapt children Stockton-on-Tees;
DOROTHY 27 Sep 1750   
MARGARET 30 Jul 1752
Father JAMES, Mr James Lamb
ELIZABETH 16 May 1755, Parents JAMES/DOROTHY, Mr James Lamb

DOROTHY, Wife of JAMES Lamb, Wine merchant, buried 26 Dec 1791

Dorothy (1750) died 1835 unmarried and her Will is on Ancestry.

I am unable to read it properly.
(waiting for an eye op!)

Also Margaret died 1839 age 86

Cant see a Marriage for  James Lamb to a Dorothy but was hoping for one to see if they had a John born pre 1750!
Title: Re: John Rutter LAMB
Post by: L Fletch3 on Thursday 13 April 23 15:35 BST (UK)
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