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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: callendar14 on Wednesday 05 March 14 07:26 GMT (UK)
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Searching for information on William Davis shown born 1831 London England - on one childs birth certificate shown as William Albert Davis
also marriage shown 1851 Hobart Town to Ellen Egan shown born 1829 London England
William Davis 1831 profession shown as confectioner or pastrycook on some childrens birth certificates
children
William James Davis Born 1851 deceased 1857 baptised Geelong
Henry Davis 1856- ?
Albert Julian Davis 1858 Carlton deceased 1922 Brisbane
William James Davis 1859 deceased 1860
Rose Lilian Davis 1862
Mary Ellen Davis 1864
Catherine Davis 1866
Frederick Arthur Davis 1869 deceased 1936 Dimboolah
James Edwin Davis 1872
all born Melbornne Victoria
To date have not traced deceased records for William Davis 1831 or Ellen Davis (Egan)
No trace Marriage Certificate 1851
any help greatly apreciated
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You have that advantage of having the birth certificates and the youngest child's should list all children of the marriage both living and deceased.
There is no marriage in Tasmania on my resource and only the following events were registered in Victoria.
Baptism
DAVIS William James
Father William Mother Ellen EGAN
At Geelong 1851 Reg#5886
Denomination Roman Catholic St Mary's Geelong Fiche#76
Death
DAVIS William James
Father William Albert Mother Ellen EGAN
1857 7 years Born Geelong Reg#2829
No birth registration for this death
DAVIS William James
Father William Albert Mother Ellen EGAN
1860 1 year Born Collingwood Reg#4994
Birth
DAVIS Mary Ellen
Father William Albert Mother Ellen EGAN
At Melbourne 1864 Reg#3533
Birth
DAVIS Catherine
Father William Mother Ellen EGAN
At Carlton 1866 Reg#16250
DAVIES Frederick Arthur
Father William Albert Mother Ellen EGAN
At Melbourne 1869 Reg#16956
DAVIS James Edwin
Father William Mother Ellen EGAN
At Melbourne 1872 Reg#10421
Geelong Advertiser 26 Jan 1854
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yaz/
Before the Mayor and Inspector of Police.
ASSAULT. William Albert Davis was placed in the dock, charged by Mr F. Carman under the following circumstances. ..........
Cando
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thanks for the reference to the Geelong Advertiser
Have never located the deaths of William Albert Davis and Ellen Egan (Davis)
can only presume I am looking for William James Davis as a father for William Albert
both William and Ellen Davis also not found in 1903 electoral roll or later
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What is the full information given on the 1872 birth certificate?
I suggest you start by tracing the children - marriages and deaths - and seeing if that leads to a location for William and Ellen. It's quite common to find elderly parents moving - sometimes quite far from the location you expect them to be - in order to live with a married daughter or similar.
e.g. Albert Julian Davis died in Brisbane - when did he move to Queensland? Did he and Frederick Arthur Davis marry, and if so, when/where?
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can only presume I am looking for William James Davis as a father for William Albert
I am puzzled by your statement. What is the source of your information that William Albert DAVIS had a father named William James?
Difficult to identify William Albert born c1829 in the death indexes. So many that could be his death registration. He is not registered as William Albert.
This is one possibility... born c1831
DAVIS William
Parents unknown
At Hotham West 61 years 1891 Reg#15875
Ellen Egan shown born 1829 London England
Deaths - born c1829
DAVIS Mary Ellen
Parents unknown
At Melbourne East Hospital 68 years 1897 Reg#2470
You can purchase an image of a certificate for $20 and immediately download
http://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/home/family+history/family+history+certificates/purchase+an+uncertified+image
There is excellent information on death certificates HOWEVER often scant if the death was at a public institution.
Deaths
ORDERS Rose Lilian
Father Davis William Albert Mother Mary Ellen EGAN
At Fairfield 70 years 1932 Reg#9073
DAVIS Frederick Arthur
Father Davis William Albert Mother Ellen EGAN
At Dimboola 67 years 1936 Reg#15263
Cando
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Marriage with mistranscribed surname
DAVIES Albert Julian born Carlton
MORCOM Jane Elizabeth born Carlton
1879 Reg#1607
Cando
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following info from certificates
10 April 1872 Birth James Edwin Davis
Father William Davis Confectioner age 41 Born London England
Married 1851 Hobart Town
children living/deceased
William dead
John dead
Henry 16
Albert 15
William dead
Rose 11
Ellen 9
Catherine 5
Frederick 2
Mother Ellen Daavis formerly Egan age 43 Born London England
signature E Davis mother Carlton
Marriage Certificate Frederick Arthur Davis/Mary Temora Annie Morse
17 August 1907
Birth Place Frederick Arthur Davis shown Carton Profession Painter age 38 Castlemaine
Father William Davis profession cook
Mother Ellen Davis nee Hayden both deceased
Marriage certificate Frederick Arthur Davis/Mary Lang
17 October 1896
Birth Frederick Arthur Davis shown Carlton profession painter 27 Castlemaine
Father William Davis profession cook
Mother Ellen Davis nee Hayden
Birth Certificate Catherine Davis 25 July 1866
Father William Davis Cook 38 Born London
Mother Ellen Davis formerly Egan age 36 Born London
Children
Henry 10
Albert 8
William dead
Rose 5
Fred dead
William James dead
Mary 2
also marriage certificate Edward James Davis/Ellen May Sanderson 20 June 1906
which may also tie in
Edward James Davis profession Carpenter 36 years Born Carlton father William Davis profession Baker deceased mother Ellen Walsh deceased
also death certificate Edward James Davis 28 May 1959
Father William occupation pastrycook mother Ellen Walsh
Marriage Certificate Rose Lilian Davis/James Frederick Orders 20 March 1884 Kay Street Carlton
Rose Lilian Davis Born Fitzroy age 22 Residence Kay Street Carlton Father William Albert Davis profession builder mother Ellen Davis nee Egan witness Henry Davis
Baptism Certificate William James Davis 31 August 1851 father William Davis Mother Ellen Egan at Geelong Born 24 June baptised 29 August 1851
St Mary of the Angels Parish Geelong advised sponsors were Mary Kelly and unable to decipher
Death Certificate William James Davis 27 June 1857 7 years Scarlitina dropsy father William Albert Davis profession Confectioner Mother Ellen Davis nee Egan at Geelong
I always presumed that the father of William Albert Davis would be William James Davis simply because there were 2 sons by this name and both deceased
Hope this will be of some assistance
cheers